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banks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112835/file/215441#t=7019.29,7022.85"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112835/file/215441/transcript/71076/annotation/1214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112835/file/215441#t=7022.85,7023.61"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112835/file/215441/transcript/71076/annotation/1215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Banks and savings 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an","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112835/file/215441#t=7296.33,7306.15"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112835/file/215441/transcript/71076/annotation/1280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"opportunity when he sees it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112835/file/215441#t=7306.15,7310.73"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112835/file/215441/transcript/71076/annotation/1281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And when he sees it, 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today","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112835/file/215441#t=7319.69,7328.61"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112835/file/215441/transcript/71076/annotation/1286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"than they did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112835/file/215441#t=7328.61,7339.11"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112835/file/215441/transcript/71076/annotation/1287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's 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