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Rosina Heverin: when I made them perpetual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1046.2,1048.54"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In other words, they became permanent at 1927.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1048.54,1053.4"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Louis Marchiafava: So it really took about nine or ten years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1053.4,1057.72"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sister M. Rosina Heverin: Yes, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1057.72,1058.82"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Louis Marchiafava: Of training","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1058.82,1059.49"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sister M. 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Rosina Heverin: Of, uh, preparation and dedication.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1061.23,1062.64"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They had to evaluate you, and you had to evaluate whether you wanted to stay or not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1062.64,1069.33"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You could pick up and leave any time up to that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1069.33,1074.52"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That is, you know, if you wanted to, you chose to do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1074.52,1079.14"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Louis Marchiafava: How many girls entered the, uh, well, how many girls began with you and how many completed it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1079.14,1085.02"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sister M. 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Rosina Heverin: Well, some relatives came to see them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1120.34,1122.62"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And said, Well, why don't you come to New York with me?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1122.62,1128.07"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, this kind of thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1128.07,1129.51"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Two, two, three dropped out that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1129.51,1136.26"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Louis Marchiafava: Can you give me an idea of the daily routine during your first year?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1136.26,1141.87"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What was it like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1141.87,1143.61"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What time did you get up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1143.61,1145.2"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What did you do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1145.2,1147.09"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sister M. Rosina Heverin: Quarter to five. Four forty-five in the morning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1147.09,1150.33"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You said, uh, then you went to the chatroom and said, Community morning prayers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1150.33,1161.16"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, you know, orally, our community jointly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1161.16,1166.77"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then after that, there was meditation or contemplation on a scene of Christ life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1166.77,1176.55"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That was a half an hour.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1176.55,1178.88"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And after that there was mass.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1178.88,1182.7"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"After mass, breakfast, which was about seven o'clock.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1182.7,1187.8"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, six thirty.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1187.8,1190.65"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, uh, then daily duties.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1190.65,1197.03"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"After that where, if you, uh, if your job was to wash up the dishes in the pantry, and set the table for","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=1197.03,1207.46"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"lunch, that was your job; 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I mean, nobody knows.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=3319.29,3322.41"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/649","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is a, I think that there is an anti, anti-religious, I think we're, society is, you know,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=3322.41,3332.62"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/650","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's not giving itself to that side, to the spiritual side.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=3332.62,3338.59"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/651","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's more or less what you say, the materialistic, you know, what can I get, you know, out of this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=3338.59,3346.24"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/652","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think it's, it has gone materialistic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=3346.24,3351.52"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/653","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, the, the trend seems to be, what can I get out of this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=3351.52,3355.57"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/654","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, or; that seems to be the trend.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=3355.57,3361.39"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/655","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, uh, economics, I don't know whether Russia has an influence on the, well","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=3361.39,3371.8"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/656","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"now. 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Oh, the generation gap, was illustrated in King Lear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=3824.55,3829.47"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/732","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Are you, do you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=3829.47,3830.2"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/733","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Louis Marchiafava: Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623#t=3830.2,3830.8"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113617/file/216623/transcript/61435/annotation/734","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sister M. 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