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testing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113313/file/216189#t=47.51,48.47"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113313/file/216189/transcript/70676/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One, two, three.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113313/file/216189#t=48.65,49.49"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113313/file/216189/transcript/70676/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Today is the 22nd, I 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