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Baytown","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112849/file/215455#t=38.61,44.99"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112849/file/215455/transcript/71099/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"refinery, and subsequently worked for that company and affiliated companies for","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112849/file/215455#t=44.99,50.55"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112849/file/215455/transcript/71099/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"some 35 years before retiring in 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symphony.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112849/file/215455#t=3296.95,3298.27"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112849/file/215455/transcript/71099/annotation/670","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did I get a little more 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affairs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112849/file/215455#t=3317.65,3318.57"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112849/file/215455/transcript/71099/annotation/679","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I came on the board of the symphony about six or seven years ago and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112849/file/215455#t=3319.33,3323.47"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112849/file/215455/transcript/71099/annotation/680","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was elected president of the symphony in 1970","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112849/file/215455#t=3323.47,3333.19"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112849/file/215455/transcript/71099/annotation/681","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I believe it was and then became chairman of the board last year and currently","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112849/file/215455#t=3333.19,3342.53"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112849/file/215455/transcript/71099/annotation/682","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"serving in that 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