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Mrs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=7.47,10.26"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Angelo Cramer, the former Mrs., uh, the\nformer Katherine Voinis, V-O-I-N-I-S, At","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=10.47,20.22"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"5122 Lymbar Drive, and the time is 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Houston.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=3731.81,3732.32"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1026","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Katherine Cramer:\u003c/strong\u003e  Oh-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=3734.84,3735.38"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1027","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Irene Cassis:\u003c/strong\u003e  It can be within the Greek community because\nthis is probably, you, you grew up with 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Angelo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=4700.58,4701.21"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Katherine Cramer:\u003c/strong\u003e  And my mother.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=4701.21,4702.71"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, now my son John is in 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Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=4977.5,4977.9"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1405","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Katherine Cramer:\u003c/strong\u003e  And she has grandchildren.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=4978.35,4979.97"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1406","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then there's on my mother's side there's\nmy cousin, Mary 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Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5424.3,5424.64"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1521","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Katherine Cramer:\u003c/strong\u003e  I mean Greek, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5424.64,5425.33"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1522","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Irene Cassis:\u003c/strong\u003e  What about for your 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That's very interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5646.59,5648.45"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1580","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, we already talked about the clubs and\norganizations that you're involved in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5649.01,5653.31"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1581","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You are Greek Orthodox, right,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5654.93,5656.2"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1582","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Katherine Cramer:\u003c/strong\u003e  Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5656.4,5656.72"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1583","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Irene Cassis:\u003c/strong\u003e  Katherine? 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I'm just asking you for the\nlittle monster over here to hear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5657.87,5662.46"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1585","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How often do you attend church?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5662.82,5664.56"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1586","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Katherine Cramer:\u003c/strong\u003e  I am very sad, sorry to say not as often as I\nwould like to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5665.28,5670.02"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1587","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would like to attend church every Sunday.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5670.02,5671.76"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1588","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, uh, with my mother, I have to wait\nuntil my brothers pick her up on Sunday.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5671.76,5677.25"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1589","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Irene Cassis:\u003c/strong\u003e  Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5677.25,5677.6"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1590","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Katherine Cramer:\u003c/strong\u003e  And so sometimes it's, uh, it's too late to\ngo to church.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5677.61,5683.01"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1591","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Irene Cassis:\u003c/strong\u003e  Okay. But you have been very active.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5683.04,5684.36"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1592","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Katherine Cramer:\u003c/strong\u003e  I do try, I do try to attend as often as I\ncan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5684.36,5687.12"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1593","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My mother is not in a position where she\ncould sit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5688.53,5691.64"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1594","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, we try to take the once in a while\nto church, but by the time I would get her","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5692.28,5697.35"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1595","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ready and everything, it, uh, it, uh, and\nit's, she herself feels very uncomfortable","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5697.35,5703.74"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1596","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"being in public because she's semi-invalid\nand just does not feel comfortable in it, you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5704.28,5711.84"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1597","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"know, so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5711.84,5712.59"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1598","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Irene Cassis:\u003c/strong\u003e  Okay. In your view, should the church\nservices be conducted in- -a second.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5712.78,5720.49"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1599","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Katherine, what I was going to ask you was\nregarding language in the church, do you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5724.24,5729.55"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1600","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"think that the church services should be\nconducted totally in English or possibly more","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5729.55,5735.67"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1601","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Greek should be put in, or should things\nremain the way they are?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5735.67,5739.3"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1602","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Katherine Cramer:\u003c/strong\u003e  I think that it should be a combination of\nboth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5741.01,5743.5"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1603","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I know that there are differences of opinion\non this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5745.18,5748.06"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1604","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think that the, uh, the way it is\nconducted now, I think it's a good way,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5748.84,5754.09"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1605","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because even those people who do not\nunderstand the Greek language can follow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5754.09,5760.15"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1606","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"First of all, the sermons are in Greek and\nEnglish, Uh, the some of the prayers are in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5760.54,5767.14"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1607","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"English. The little hymnal, hymnals, the\nlittle booklets that we have, uh, have the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5767.14,5773.5"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1608","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Greek and the English on each side, and if\nthey could follow along they can read the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5773.5,5776.68"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1609","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"English part. Now some of the hymns, you\nlose some of the beauty when you translate","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5776.68,5781.6"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1610","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"them. But at the same time, though, it's,\nthe translation is there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5781.6,5787.92"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1611","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't think we should completely eliminate\nthe Greek.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5787.93,5790.81"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1612","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But on the other hand, I think we should do\nas much as we can to, uh, let the non-Greeks","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5790.87,5798.25"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1613","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"be able to follow and understand what's\ngoing on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5798.25,5800.98"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1614","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's very important or else you can't, you\ncan't, uh, I mean, if they can't understand","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5800.98,5806.56"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1615","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what's going on, they might as well not be\nthere, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5806.56,5809.56"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1616","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Irene Cassis:\u003c/strong\u003e  Okay. 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What does it mean to you to be\nOrthodox, Katherine?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5810.13,5815.56"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1617","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Katherine Cramer:\u003c/strong\u003e  I feel happy about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5815.56,5816.58"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1618","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I feel, uh, just, uh, I'm happy that I'm\nGreek Orthodox.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5816.58,5821.44"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1619","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Irene Cassis:\u003c/strong\u003e  How import-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5822.6,5823.28"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1620","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Katherine Cramer:\u003c/strong\u003e  I, I was born a Greek Orthodox.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5823.28,5825.04"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1621","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I will always be of Greek Orthodox.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5825.04,5826.31"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1622","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I, I can't answer that any the other way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5828.62,5830.81"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1623","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Irene Cassis:\u003c/strong\u003e  Okay. How important is it for your children\nto remain, uh, orthodox?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5830.99,5835.43"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1624","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Katherine Cramer:\u003c/strong\u003e  It's very important to me for them to remain\northodox, but I have to be realistic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=5835.46,5839.9"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1625","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If they do not, then I want them to 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Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=6543.11,6543.51"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1836","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Katherine Cramer:\u003c/strong\u003e  And so, uh, but I think they enjoy their\nGreek heritage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=6543.51,6548.23"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1837","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, they don't feel as strongly Greek as, as\nI would, for instance, or, and I don't 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Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=6555.76,6556.21"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1840","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Katherine Cramer:\u003c/strong\u003e  in that sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=6556.21,6556.99"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1841","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Irene Cassis:\u003c/strong\u003e  Okay. 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Uh, let's see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=6556.99,6559.21"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1842","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I want to talk about the community a little\nbit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=6559.21,6560.92"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1843","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How would you describe the Greek community\nin Houston?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=6561.52,6565.0"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1844","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Katherine Cramer:\u003c/strong\u003e  I would, I would say that the Greek community\nis a lot like any other community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=6567.99,6573.87"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1845","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't think that being Greek makes that\nmuch difference.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=6573.87,6578.76"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1846","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I know that there are a lot of Greeks that\nare from Greece, but mostly the, they're, uh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=6578.81,6584.42"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1847","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the leadership of the Greek community is\nGreek American, and I think they think more","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=6584.61,6590.01"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1848","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"American than Greek.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=6590.01,6591.18"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1849","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Irene Cassis:\u003c/strong\u003e  Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=6591.51,6591.83"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1850","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Katherine Cramer:\u003c/strong\u003e  I mean, that's just my observation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=6592.02,6593.77"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1851","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Irene Cassis:\u003c/strong\u003e  Yeah, right. And this is what we want, how\nyou.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=6593.77,6595.92"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1852","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How would you, um, how would you describe\nthe members of the Greek community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=6597.0,6602.04"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1853","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What are they like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=6602.04,6603.09"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1854","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Katherine Cramer:\u003c/strong\u003e  I think they're all hard workers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=6605.04,6607.17"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1855","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think there are people that are very\nprogressive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=6607.17,6610.2"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1856","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, uh, as I said before, I think the Greek\ncommunities very materialistic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=6611.55,6616.89"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1857","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, uh, but, uh, I, I, if there are any\npoor Greeks, and I'm sure there are, you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209#t=6617.46,6625.47"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109706/file/211209/transcript/64696/annotation/1858","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"don't know it. 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