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Miller speaks in depth about the process by which children are brought into the Juvenile Court system, how the court operates, how cases are handled, and how juveniles are sentenced and referred for \"remedial education.\" He points out shortcomings with the Juvenile Court system and the Texas Youth Council, the lack of institutions to handle different juvenile court needs, such as mentally handicapped youth and pregnant teens. Miller also discusses about an organization established by himself, called Concerned Teens. This organization brings together teens from around the district to help better understand issues that teens face and to resolve these issues to prevent teens from becoming delinquents, murderers, etc. He also discusses the importance of handling mental health issues improving community mental health centers. 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juveniles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112890/file/215504#t=3691.98,3695.5"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112890/file/215504/transcript/71723/annotation/844","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm afraid of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112890/file/215504#t=3695.68,3696.9"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112890/file/215504/transcript/71723/annotation/845","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I hope that's not 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