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gone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113612/file/216618#t=32.65,35.29"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113612/file/216618/transcript/61430/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, um, she asked me one day since I was doing it for free, why\ndidn't I go down and get on the payroll?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113612/file/216618#t=35.29,42.97"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113612/file/216618/transcript/61430/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I went down and I was 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