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Today is July 5th,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=0.09,8.73"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"2022. I am interviewing Michelle Barnes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=8.73,15.42"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ms. Michelle Barnes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=15.42,17.61"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This interview is taking place in Houston, Texas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=17.61,22.29"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The interview is sponsored by by by HPL Gregory School as a part of the Bear Witness project.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=22.29,32.52"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So can you please tell me your full name and what you know about your your your last name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=32.52,48.11"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I am Michelle Anita Swain Benson Barnes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=48.11,59.09"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My several last names.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=59.09,63.45"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Surnames. Start with Swain, which I'm still researching.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=63.45,71.22"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Benson. I use because I am.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=71.22,78.6"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was married to David Benson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=78.6,82.49"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we have a daughter, Michonne.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=82.49,88.08"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I used that name to acknowledge those relationships. I am married to Barry Barnes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=88.08,99.72"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My strength and rock.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=99.72,104.6"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, a Virginia man.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=104.6,108.17"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So there's still lots of discoveries to be made about that last name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=108.17,117.89"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you. Can you tell me what you know about your ancestral history?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=117.89,125.51"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And briefly, tell me what you know and what you've learned about your own ancestral history?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=125.51,134.24"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, thanks to my sons there has and their interest in knowing more about our family history beyond","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=134.24,144.11"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this continent. We have done some minimal research through Ancestry.com.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=144.11,153.12"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I have spent many sessions over the years talking with my relatives in Dale, Texas, where my father","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=153.12,163.05"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was from near Lockhart.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=163.05,168.82"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My mother's family, just outside of Austin, now included in Austin out Highway 183.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=168.82,179.43"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And relatives in Bastrop, Oklahoma.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=179.43,184.88"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All living on Indian land, formerly Indian land, as farmers, stewards of the  land.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=184.88,203.54"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Who is the ancestor and your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=203.54,213.46"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"family lineage that you would like to bear witness to her impact on your family and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=213.46,223.15"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"how is she related to you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=223.15,226.65"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There are many women who have impacted my life who are members of my family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=226.65,234.15"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Grandmother, certainly aunts, great aunts, third cousins.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=234.15,243.49"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Of my especially my mother's family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=243.49,249.3"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think I'll start this verbal journey with my paternal grandmother,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=249.3,259.44"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Cardi Sneed Swain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=259.44,268.95"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Born into a sharecropping family of enslaved people formerly before that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=268.95,278.32"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Her husband was probably a victim of violence, though.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=278.32,283.24"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know that full story. He died when my father was a toddler.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=283.24,292.43"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And his younger brother was toddling even more. 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But she loved to party and she was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=322.36,332.09"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"also very encouraging. 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So it's interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=434.94,440.22"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's a lot to delve into. Sometimes it matters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=440.22,447.63"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"At times your maternal grandmother. What was her name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=447.63,452.58"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Your maternal grandmother.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=452.58,454.68"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Velma. Velma McNeil Alexander.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=454.68,463.65"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And do you know what year she was born?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=463.65,466.98"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Velma Lillian was probably born in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=466.98,472.16"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1875. I'll have to check","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=472.16,481.65"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"our Bible records.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=481.65,484.17"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't have that information.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=484.17,485.79"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Born. Where? Where? What part of Texas was she born?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=485.79,489.42"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In Bastrop, Texas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=489.42,491.61"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In Bastrop, Texas. And you're in your paternal grandmother. Um.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=491.61,499.84"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Cardi B Sneed Swain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=499.84,502.57"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And she was born in what year?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=502.57,508.31"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have that information in her obituary. I don't have it in front of me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=508.31,514.04"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But can you kind of think of the range? Was she about the same age range as your maternal grandmother.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=514.04,522.52"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let's see. I think my maternal grandmother was older.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=522.52,536.12"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But they they did know each other. My maternal grandmother had eight children.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=536.12,546.77"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My paternal grandmother had only two and she was the youngest of three.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=546.77,557.55"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So there was an age disparity there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=557.55,563.25"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'll have to look that up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=563.25,565.47"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so when you think of your two grandmothers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=565.47,574.98"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Can you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=574.98,580.21"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So were they ever recognized for any special talents singing, sewing,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=580.21,589.36"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"baking? Were they ever recognized either formally or by their church community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=589.36,598.05"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well. I'm not sure that either.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=598.05,604.15"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We're recognized for any talents particularly, but both were family oriented.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=604.15,617.06"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Velma Lillian baked great biscuits.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=617.06,623.25"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And she had a reputation of making those biscuits just about every day. 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What was the catalyst for her going up north? Do you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=739.37,744.89"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"To work, to earn a living, to support her family, her mother and her two sisters and her two children? There","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=744.89,754.8"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wasn't work in Dale, Texas, that would support the family beyond the minimal existence as a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=754.8,763.98"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sharecropper. 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Maybe that's all I'll say about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1235.59,1245.08"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So everybody would come at the same time to the country to be with your grandmother.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1245.08,1251.62"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I had cousins who lived on the farm, so they were there. 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Just brilliant people still are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1269.04,1279.27"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it was just me and my brother going to the farm in in the summers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1279.27,1288.34"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Until I was about 13 and not every summer, evidently, because I was going to Philadelphia from the time I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1288.34,1295.57"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was six or so riding on the train.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1295.57,1301.91"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"To Philly. Southern Pacific.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1301.91,1307.91"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eating in the dining cars. Such a cool experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1307.91,1315.36"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So when you talk about this, not both of them actually not having a life that they were able to really feel","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1315.36,1325.29"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fulfilled. What do you what do you see as the major difference between your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1325.29,1334.55"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"opportunities and theirs?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1334.55,1336.88"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Is it time, context, education?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1336.88,1342.28"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What would you say is a big difference in the theme that allowed you two generations later to be able to do  more?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1342.28,1353.84"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well. I'm doing differently.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1353.84,1357.19"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know if I'm doing more. They did a lot. I'm not having to support my","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1357.19,1367.04"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"family. I'm feeling supported by my family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1367.04,1370.91"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's a difference. I'm doing different kinds of things than they did. But we both. All three of us do  a lot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1370.91,1391.51"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, is there anything that we haven't talked about that you would like to discuss in the time that we have left?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1391.51,1406.82"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, there's probably a lot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1406.82,1411.55"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That I haven't mentioned. Want to show you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1411.55,1419.04"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Want to send you some pictures. Of these grandmothers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1419.04,1424.11"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Can you see that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1424.11,1427.56"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. Yes, I can. If you email those back, that'll be great. 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And I've got photographs of my my maternal grandmother also.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1437.04,1447.86"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'll send those to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1447.86,1451.04"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. If you send, send those along with the consent form when you sign it. That would be great. 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They were strong women.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1480.23,1495.16"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My. paternal grandmother drank and smoked.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1495.16,1504.41"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My maternal grandmother didn't, as far as I know. 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Helping them to stay on the farm if that was a better   option.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1613.75,1626.82"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, thank you. No, that is a very interesting difference between your paternal grandmother versus","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1626.82,1635.96"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your maternal grandmother. And when you have the Great Migration up north.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1635.96,1643.0"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1643.0,1644.49"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And one is the deliberate distinction to stay in the south. So do you still have relatives there in the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1644.49,1653.22"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Philadelphia area up north?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1653.22,1655.14"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I do. My cousins are still there. Valerie Swain is a provost at the University of Pennsylvania.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1655.14,1666.6"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She has a brother who is a professor, Billy William at I think he's at Lincoln.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1666.6,1676.57"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Another brother, Brian, and a deceased sister, Gail.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1676.57,1684.93"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So when your uncle [inaudible].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1684.93,1688.5"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. No. Well, no. And I was going to say then your paternal grandmother didn't go to college, but your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1688.5,1695.07"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"uncle obviously went to Philadelphia and and went to college himself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1695.07,1702.42"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I'm not sure that he did. But after the military, he may have, but I think that he did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1702.42,1711.39"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He just worked he worked in the library system in Philadelphia. He drove taxis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1711.39,1718.65"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He did all kinds of jobs to support his family, plus his military stipend.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1718.65,1725.49"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"His wife was from the West Indies. Ina a homemaker,  historian, amateur historian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1725.49,1735.78"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And was responsible for a lot of the research that was done in the Germantown community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1735.78,1747.87"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you so much for for this interview and for sharing about your paternal and maternal grandmother.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651#t=1747.87,1755.63"}]},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112986/file/215651/transcript/61242/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/061/242/original/transcript_1706547801.vtt20240129-465958-nkkuzr.vtt?1706529801","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/061/242/original/transcript_1706547801.vtt20240129-465958-nkkuzr.vtt?1706529801"}]}]}]}