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Chatham:\nThis is an interview with Mr.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=1.83,3.3"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eddie Kalmans.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=3.3,4.62"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was conducted at 5 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Chatham:\n...things down. When were you born?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=53.65,56.26"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eddie Kalmans:\nI was born in 1895.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=57.16,60.07"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Russell L. 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Had you quit school already when you left?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=199.08,202.83"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eddie Kalmans:\nNo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=202.92,203.55"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Russell L. 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Chatham:\nSideline?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=213.3,214.16"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eddie Kalmans:\nThat's what we thought it was. Um...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=216.28,217.26"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Russell L. 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By boat, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=226.21,227.19"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Russell L. 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Tell us about the trip when you left home coming to Bremen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=240.87,246.04"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How did you travel?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=246.07,247.06"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eddie Kalmans:\nWell first we went to cross the border, I went with a train.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=248.22,252.67"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"After we crossed the Russian border to Germany, then they, we went to\nand got a boat in Bremen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=252.67,260.53"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Russell L. Chatham:\nWas there just a small group of you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=263.62,265.87"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eddie Kalmans:\nWas my parents. My father and mother and, uh, I had three, four chi,\nfour daughter, four sisters and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=267.04,276.79"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"myself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=276.79,277.48"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Russell L. 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My sister was older, and then the three sisters were\nbehind me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=282.82,287.68"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[...]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=287.68,289.15"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Russell L. 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Do you recall when you were fourteen years old, the\ndiscussions about","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=352.69,362.69"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"whether or not they would come to the U.S.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=362.69,365.54"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=366.24,366.25"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eddie Kalmans:\nI beg your pardon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=366.25,366.45"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Russell L. Chatham:\nDid your parents discuss with you about coming to the U.S.?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=367.46,371.54"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eddie Kalmans:\nNo, they were there. My, my elder brothers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=371.57,375.11"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":".. Let's see. One, two, three.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=375.86,377.96"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They were here before, and they've, they're finally to sending for\nus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=378.59,381.98"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Russell L. 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I mean, about six, eight...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=475.56,478.53"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Harry was about eight years older, and then Ben was about nine or ten\nyears older.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=480.79,485.74"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Russell L. 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Because the second, I skipped the first and second because I learned\nthe...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=901.05,905.27"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's a difference in the alphabet between Russia and, uh, and this\ncountry, English.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=905.27,912.06"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I learned that enough to get in and, and have enough to learn, to\nunderstand what, about English.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=912.51,920.22"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Russell L. 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So we started with ten cows, the same way, and, uh...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=1805.72,1810.72"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/516","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, uh, let's see, it was 1922, '23, and we stayed in that business\nabout five years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=1810.72,1819.94"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/517","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I worked up pretty good, those days was, uh, I didn't, uh,  I had a\nfew...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=1820.66,1826.5"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/518","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I just starting to have bottles then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=1826.5,1830.06"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/519","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We used to bottle it and then sell it mostly to grocers, grocery\nstores.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=1830.06,1835.78"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/520","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, uh...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=1836.05,1836.35"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/521","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Russell L. 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It was too far for the fire department.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=2955.84,2958.0"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/809","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Russell L. 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Chatham:\nWhat, uh, Temple did your folks attend?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=2971.2,2973.94"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/814","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eddie Kalmans:\nTorat Emet, uh, Torat Israel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=2974.95,2976.34"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/815","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's a Beth Yeshurun now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=2977.57,2979.43"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/816","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Russell L. Chatham:\nRemember the name of the rabbis back in those days?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=2985.42,2988.18"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/817","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eddie Kalmans:\nYeah. Doctor, uh... 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Chatham:\nWhat did you do? What did they do in the way of celebrating?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=3019.82,3024.02"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/826","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eddie Kalmans:\nWell, we used go to synagogue, and then I have's a good dinner or\nsomething to fix special.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=3025.72,3030.83"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/827","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Passover, you know...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=3030.95,3034.71"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/828","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, we have a, we call it Seder.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=3034.71,3036.89"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/829","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All, the whole family used to get together and, and celebrate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=3037.61,3042.62"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/830","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Russell L. 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My father was really, always had that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=3066.32,3070.22"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/836","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the whole family used to come that, uh, that week.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=3070.22,3073.55"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/837","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Russell L. 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You know, what could you do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=3092.54,3096.02"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/844","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Those was good to eat, eat after that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=3096.53,3099.35"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/845","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then the little shed we used to put up, well, it's just, like,\nuh, take it apart and then fix it up next, uh, following year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=3099.48,3108.38"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/846","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Russell L. 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Chatham:\nWas there any other, uh, holidays that your family participated in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=3128.91,3134.37"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/852","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did they bring any Russian customs with them that your family did\nthat maybe the other families didn't do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=3135.84,3141.54"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/853","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Eddie Kalmans:\nWell, it's we're...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=3142.05,3143.43"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/854","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"oh, our family was all Orthodox; my father and mother.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=3143.43,3147.01"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/855","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They was strictly orthodox, uh, Customers, they've told me it's the\nsame thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=3147.01,3151.5"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/856","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Same thing was about, like over there as it was here; they took out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=3152.25,3155.85"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/857","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, of course, now everyone has changed to conservative, but, uh,\nthey were strictly orthodox.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107#t=3157.59,3164.61"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2467/collection_resources/109625/file/211107/transcript/60850/annotation/858","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Russell L. 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