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they","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112870/file/215478#t=3334.8,3338.54"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112870/file/215478/transcript/71597/annotation/636","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"always have a little bit of a hard time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112870/file/215478#t=3338.54,3340.6"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112870/file/215478/transcript/71597/annotation/637","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I 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1930s.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112870/file/215478#t=3346.56,3351.5"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112870/file/215478/transcript/71597/annotation/640","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They came most every year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112870/file/215478#t=3351.5,3353.34"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112870/file/215478/transcript/71597/annotation/641","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, a recent 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