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Gottlieb.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112829/file/215435#t=6.46,8.64"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112829/file/215435/transcript/70978/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How did you make the transition from TV entertainer into politics when you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112829/file/215435#t=12.06,18.0"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112829/file/215435/transcript/70978/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"first ran for the city council?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112829/file/215435#t=18.0,19.54"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112829/file/215435/transcript/70978/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The true story on my entering into politics came as a result of having had","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112829/file/215435#t=20.76,25.04"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112829/file/215435/transcript/70978/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a tremendously successful nine, ten years in fundraising in the Houston 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