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We thought we'd start off by just asking\nyou to talk a little bit about your own background,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=15.23,24.64"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what you did before you came to the welfare department\nand then what background you've had here in the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=24.64,31.39"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"department.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=31.39,32.06"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Larry Mondragon:\nRight? 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Um, I came to the department just about\nstraight from the university.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=32.08,39.4"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I graduated in July, '70, and then, uh, that was in\nOklahoma,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=40.18,49.72"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I moved to Houston in August of '70, 1970.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=51.46,55.78"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I've substitute...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=56.98,58.1"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I, um, was a substitute teacher from September to the\nfirst week of October, and then October '70 I'd 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Your now a supervisor, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=109.26,110.52"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Larry Mondragon:\nI'm a program director.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=110.67,111.75"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ruth Whiteside:\nProgram director.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=111.75,111.76"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Larry Mondragon:\nUh-huh. 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We haven't had any problems, that I\nknow, since I have been with the department, from the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1859.69,1866.34"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"welfare rights organization.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1866.34,1867.58"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/368","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ruth Whiteside:\nSo you really have very few complaints in the sense of\npeople who feel like what your workers did was not the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1868.51,1874.15"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/369","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1874.15,1874.36"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/370","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Larry Mondragon:\nRight. It's amazing, but I've seen more Marvin Zindler\nletters come through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1874.39,1879.13"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ruth Whiteside:\nReally?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1879.55,1879.88"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Larry Mondragon:\nThan any other 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We don't have the funds to do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1927.07,1928.93"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It takes at least thirty days, from the time they\napply to the time to get a check, because not only does","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1929.29,1938.65"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/387","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a client has to fill out the eligibility form, but\nthen the worker has to contact the client.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1938.66,1943.98"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/388","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Make face-to-face contact, and then clear the\neligibility items.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1943.98,1947.99"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/389","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So considering the backlog of applications that we\nhave, it's going to be several weeks before they're","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1948.57,1954.8"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/390","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"able to to get help.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1954.8,1956.26"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the meantime, about the only thing we can do is\nissue, uh, emergency food stamps.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1956.27,1963.62"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ruth Whiteside:\nDo your workers have this responsibility?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1963.62,1965.71"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Food stamp responses...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1965.72,1966.77"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Larry Mondragon:\nYes. On active cases, they sure do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1966.93,1969.45"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ruth Whiteside:\nSo they determine eligibility for food stamps as well\nas for...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1970.2,1973.84"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/396","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Larry Mondragon:\nAs well as financial aid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1973.96,1975.48"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/397","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ruth Whiteside:\nFinancial aid for y'all. And then they can give that,\nthat kind of same day...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1975.48,1981.43"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/398","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Larry Mondragon:\nYes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1981.43,1981.93"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/399","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ruth Whiteside:\n...service, if you have a...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1981.93,1983.0"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/400","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Larry Mondragon:\nRight. One day service.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1983.0,1983.91"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/401","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ruth Whiteside:\n...service. What constitutes that kind of an emergency?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1984.6,1987.03"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/402","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Larry Mondragon:\nA client who loses her, her food stamp card.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=1987.37,1994.21"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/403","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You see, at the same time, just about the same time\nthat she gets her welfare check, she will get 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one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2024.87,2028.86"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/410","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If the House burns down, or there's a robbery or\nsomething like that in the home, you know, break in or","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2032.65,2038.14"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/411","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"whatever, then we can 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The Cadillac, uh, welfare Cadillac myth, that\nsort of thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2488.12,2492.5"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/490","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, we have seen a lot of Cadillacs come outside to,\nuh, drop people off for food stamps, but these are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2493.28,2499.97"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/491","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"friends or neighbors who give them a ride to the\noffice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2499.97,2503.78"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/492","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ruth Whiteside:\nWhat would the average recipient be getting?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2503.99,2506.85"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/493","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What size check?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2506.87,2508.04"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/494","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Larry Mondragon:\nI think the average recipient gets about a hundred and\nsixteen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2509.28,2512.49"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/495","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ruth Whiteside:\nHundred and sixteen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2512.49,2513.23"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/496","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Larry Mondragon:\nA month.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2513.23,2513.24"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/497","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ruth Whiteside:\nSo people are not getting rich.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2513.97,2516.21"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/498","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Larry Mondragon:\nNo way. No, uh, mother with one child gets eighty-six\nmaximum.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2516.21,2520.81"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/499","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And from that eighty-six dollars, she has to pay her r\nent, and her food, and clothing, this sort of thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2522.73,2528.46"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/500","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's no way. If she has a child, we add nineteen\ndollars to the eighty-six.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2529.64,2536.42"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/501","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So it's, uh, the check increases by nineteen dollars\nevery time a dependent is added on to the group.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2537.08,2544.31"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/502","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hardly an incentive for any mother to have 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But the organization is so large.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2643.02,2646.62"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/520","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Excuse me. And so, uh, diverse in functions that it\nseems to me we need a representative for financial like","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2647.67,2656.4"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/521","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we need a representative for social, you know, so they\ncan explain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2656.4,2660.18"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/522","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ruth Whiteside:\nNeed to do almost each one...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2660.18,2661.54"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/523","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Larry Mondragon:\nRight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2661.54,2662.04"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/524","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ruth Whiteside:\n...doing it's own...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2662.04,2662.97"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/525","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Larry Mondragon:\nDoing their own thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2662.97,2663.45"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/526","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ruth Whiteside:\nWhat about national reform proposals, particularly\nsomething like guaranteed annual income that would","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2665.41,2672.55"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/527","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"instead of giving a welfare person food stamps, and a\nwelfare check, and living in public housing, several","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2673.24,2681.25"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/528","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"different ways, you combine all of that into one check\nand then really don't do a lot of social services and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2681.25,2689.98"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/529","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"all. Is this an idea that you think is appealing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2689.98,2694.81"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/530","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Larry Mondragon:\nI think it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2696.25,2697.27"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/531","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I personally like the idea of a direct cash assistance\nto the recipient.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2698.75,2706.68"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/532","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It would eliminate, I think, I'm not that familiar\nwith it, but it seems to me that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2708.77,2718.69"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/533","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it will eliminate a lot of the middle people, you\nknow, who come into the picture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2718.69,2724.18"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/534","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"For example, on food stamps, we're giving this person a\ncertain number of food stamps for so much money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2726.79,2736.31"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/535","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, they can only use that those food stamps for, of\ncourse, for food, they can't use it for any non-edible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2737.24,2744.71"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/536","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"items. 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And they pay pretty good money, I'm\nsure for it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2914.77,2918.55"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/568","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So the farmer of the big farming industry is not able\nto find an outlet elsewhere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2918.97,2926.29"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/569","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They can always sell it to Uncle Sam, you see, for our\ncommodities,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2927.01,2929.26"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/570","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David:\nEspecially staples like milk and grain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2930.82,2933.79"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/571","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Larry Mondragon:\nThen again, you're... um,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2938.37,2946.27"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/572","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"well, that's, that's probably the largest interest\nthat would stand to lose...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2948.33,2953.28"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/573","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David:\nPerhaps.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704#t=2953.28,2953.88"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113028/file/215704/transcript/66460/annotation/574","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Larry Mondragon:\n...if they did away... 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