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Just neither.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=2.87,4.55"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Louis Marchiafava: Beginning tape two of interview.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=4.55,10.07"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Marguerite Kelly: Mr. Holcombe looked Durwood straight in the eye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=10.07,12.11"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And he said, Now, Durwood, if I can't find time to go to Sunday school when it's not a political campaign coming on, I don't want to be","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=12.11,22.58"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a hypocrite enough to just show up when campaign is coming on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=22.58,26.48"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think, uh, Durwood didn't say it, but I think he felt, thus ended the lesson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=26.48,34.19"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think the thing about Mr. Holcombe, he had a genuine sense of political forgiveness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=34.19,42.34"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Though to my knowledge there was one exception, and I guess it takes an exception to prove the rule.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=42.34,48.01"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mefo, M.E. Foster, who's edited the, of the once published and widely read Houston Press and it's now, it's been defunct for a number of years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=48.01,58.54"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He published an editorial; and that man could write.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=58.54,68.2"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He published an editorial that Mr.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=68.2,70.69"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Holcombe considered slanderous.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=70.69,74.71"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It hurt Mr. 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I mean, but, if the sweat seems to be in there more, there was more of that than there was anything else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=678.46,685.18"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because that's all you did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=685.18,688.36"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was hot. 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He might have talked to others and he might have talked to a longshoremen again, I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=901.06,906.34"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But my guess would be that if the longshoreman were talked to you, they were talked to by somebody else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=906.34,915.66"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now I think he would have had that done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=915.66,920.87"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But so far as I know, there was nothing else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=920.87,923.3"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This was during a campaign, by the way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=923.3,925.46"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This was not a mayoral campaign.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=925.46,927.23"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is the campaign when he was running for congressman.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=927.23,932.2"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Albert Thomas was his opponent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=932.2,936.5"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Albert was a young man who, who had been elected to the state legislature.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=936.5,943.82"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But he might have been. 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And then let me hear from you again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=1279.1,1283.0"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I never heard from him again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=1283.0,1285.61"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That was unfair.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=1285.61,1287.86"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That was an uncouth thing to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=1287.86,1291.82"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It never had occurred, if you'd ask me now what I thought about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=1291.82,1295.63"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I never thought about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=1295.63,1301.9"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I don't even know why I'm telling you that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=1301.9,1303.19"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it just happened. 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But Wright Morra was the man I'm talking about, and he was talking about the 1928 convention on an anniversary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=1662.25,1670.86"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Wright had grown old and he had a wife who was very ill and Wright was a fine man.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=1670.86,1676.56"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I wouldn't, I, I didn't think it was 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It was, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=2390.5,2392.2"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/456","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Marguerite Kelly: But, it was, it was I thought it was a polite thing to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=2392.2,2399.37"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/457","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Both of them are very. 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My boss would like to talk to your boss.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=2409.78,2415.33"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/460","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, wait a minute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=2415.33,2417.4"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/461","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right now, I think it would be a little more convenient if you'd let me call you back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=2417.4,2422.62"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/462","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's all we had to say. 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We are so happy because we don't have a thing to do except wait for tomorrow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=2899.82,2906.87"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/559","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the phone rings, and it's Washington, and it's the president of the United States.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=2906.87,2913.9"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/560","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And at that time, that was a little scary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=2913.9,2917.59"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/561","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And he talks to the mayor and he says, Oscar, I don't want the women.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=2917.59,2924.23"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/562","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, my wife and, and, and, and the ones that have come with me, they don't want their wives on the same boat with us, because we've","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=2924.23,2934.03"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/563","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"decided we'd like to do a little drinking and we might do a little raucous storytelling.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=2934.03,2938.98"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/564","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And while we're not too sure the women wouldn't enjoy it, they don't like to enjoy it in public.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=2938.98,2945.19"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/565","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, if you knew anything about Franklin Roosevelt, that would sound exactly like something he would say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=2945.19,2950.96"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/566","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, so what do you do? 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But, uh, and we, we feel that their request should be granted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=3039.16,3047.89"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/585","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we have made provision for this extra boat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619#t=3047.89,3051.07"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113613/file/216619/transcript/61431/annotation/586","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, sometimes tonight, somebody is going to knock on your door and give you your ticket for the correct boat for you to be 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