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There were times when I probably felt","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=14.76,24.68"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that I was a man that wasn't a citizen, but being involved in many areas of the city,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=24.68,35.599"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I began to feel like I was more a part of it. I feel like if you want to be a part of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=35.599,43.72"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"something, you must get involved in it. And that has been my work for the last 61 years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=43.72,51.68"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I chose the Houston Police Department at this time to talk about. For many, many years,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=51.68,62.08"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it was a sore spot for black people, and police brutality was rampant at that time. We had","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=62.08,75.72"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"only one black officer that was really with HPD, only one, and he was confined to the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=75.72,87.04"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"area of the 400th block of Milam Street. Milam Street, on the outside of Milam Street, was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=87.04,98.44"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"more or less all blacks. You had small stores on the left-hand side, and he patrolled that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=98.44,107.12"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"400th block of Milam, and then he would also patrol, I believe it was at the 800th block","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=107.12,117.12"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and 900th block of Prairie. Those were the areas downtown where blacks had businesses.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=117.12,124.919"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And he would actually patrol the taverns. That was all they had in there was restaurants","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=124.919,133.0"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and taverns. If a Caucasian, Caucasian would enter into that area, and he needed some protection","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=133.0,145.88"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or this person was out of order, he would have to call the captain, and they would come","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=145.88,153.6"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"down and arrest the person if need be, or either turn him loose. But I have the pictures","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=153.6,162.72"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of the first Negro officers that graduated from the academy. They were not a part of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=162.72,171.44"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Houston Police Academy as we know it today. These fellows graduated from Texas Southern.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=171.44,180.72"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They had their training over there. It was 13 of them, and their pictures are in the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=180.72,188.32"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"first annual that TSU turned out in 1947. I use the word TSU, but really it was Houston","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=188.32,199.44"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"College at that time. And since that, though, we have seen a tremendous amount of growth","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=199.44,207.08"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the police department. I will say that the NAACP was very active. We had the executive","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=207.08,215.88"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"director, Lula White, and we also had Chris Adair. Pretty near every Monday morning, she","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=215.88,224.0"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"would have to call Weldon Berry, Attorney Weldon Berry, or Attorney Francis Williams,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=224.0,232.0"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"some of the other black attorneys. They would have to go down and take care of the situation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=232.0,238.16"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"where a black man had been treated very rudely and brutalized at that point. This went on","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=238.16,248.8"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for years. It began to change as we got a better mayor, and I think that we could see","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=248.8,259.559"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a tremendous change when we had Chief Buddy McGill and also Dr. Caldwell, who had a doctor's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=259.559,272.119"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"degree in criminal justice. The police department began to take on a different image, because","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=272.119,280.64"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"prior to that, it was a boot-kicking situation. This is what went on all the time. But all","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=280.64,289.559"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in all, I am grateful for having settled here in Houston because of TSU. Houston is still","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=289.559,299.16"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on an explosion, as I see it. Houston is really not what it will be. I just believe one day","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=299.16,309.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that Houston will be the number one city in America. But when it comes to opportunity,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=309.239,315.799"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we always say America is the land of opportunity. I say Houston is the land of opportunity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=315.799,322.119"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I thank my Lord and Savior that I have been able to land here in Houston, and I believe","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=322.119,328.6"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have made an impact in many, many different ways. I retired from the Equal Employment","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=328.6,334.679"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Opportunity Commission, and there I had the opportunity to interact in many, many different","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=334.679,343.079"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ways, primarily in employment. But of course, I would go a little farther than that in telling","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=343.079,350.2"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"young people that there is a better way. Thank you. How long did I talk?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=350.2,358.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Six minutes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=358.239,359.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ten minutes is a long time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=359.239,361.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, how did change happen? There must have been some times when you had the pressure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=361.239,368.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There must have been some times when you had to demonstrate. There must have been some","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=368.239,371.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"times when it was behind the scenes. How did change happen over your lifetime?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=371.239,377.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Change happened, I would say, first through education. Blacks were perceived as being","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=377.239,388.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ignorant in some way, and I think we still have some ignorant people today. But I think","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=388.239,395.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"education has been the key. I think TSU have done more for this community than most people","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=395.239,404.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"would give credit to. The professors over there, Dr. Bullard was one of the persons","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=404.239,415.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that was very interested in moving this city, presenting themselves in a way that would","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=415.239,427.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"be acceptable to the masses and to the powers that be. And I believe that, and of course,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=427.239,439.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we educating ourselves, you must present yourself in such a way that you are not considered","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=439.239,449.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a person that is unlearned. And people will accept you if they think, if they believe","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=449.239,456.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that you are learned. And I would say education is the key. I think education is one of the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=456.239,464.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"things that are continuously holding blacks back because they are not, many of them are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=464.239,472.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"not taking advantage of the educational opportunities that are here. And I think once we all start","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=472.239,480.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"taking advantages of that, things will be even better. I do know that the schools were","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=480.239,488.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"not equal, but of course there must be something innate in an individual that you would want","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=488.239,495.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to clamor and get that education. You must have that feeling that there is something","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=495.239,501.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"out there that's missing. And that missing has to be in you and you have to get it out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=502.239,510.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think that once we know that the school as we have it now, the busing and what have you,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=510.239,519.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's good. But I feel that we need to cut television off. I feel that we need to cut","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=519.239,530.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"some of the video games off. I feel that some of the parents are so busy making a dollar","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=530.239,539.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"until they're losing their life and they're not communicating with the children, neither","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=539.239,545.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are the children communicating with them because they have found other areas that they can","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=545.239,550.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"communicate in. And until we get that together, I think that you will see Houston be that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=550.239,558.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"number one city that Mayor Lee Brown have always talked about, the city that I have dreamed","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=558.239,564.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about. And I believe it will come. It will come sooner than we think if we change our","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=564.239,572.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"attitudes about education, if we change our attitude even about the government itself,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=572.239,579.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if we change our attitude and really begin to participate in government. I think that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=579.239,586.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a lot of changes will take place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=587.239,591.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q. Who were the heroes in the fight for equality?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=591.239,595.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A. You mean here in Houston?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=595.239,597.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q. Yes, sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=597.239,598.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A. I would say men like Hobart Taylor, men like Mr. and Mrs. Moses Leroy. I would say","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=598.239,615.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Attorney Chris Dixie and his wife. I would say Arthur Mandel. And there are others, many,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=615.239,628.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"many more. But I feel that these people were really heroes in Houston. It's many, many","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=628.239,639.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"more that have made so many contributions. And I hate to just leave them out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=640.239,644.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q. In the Caucasian community, were there people who were particularly helpful, either","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=644.239,650.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from the mayor's office in government or in business?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=650.239,653.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A. I would think that Mayor Welch did a tremendous job. Mayor Welch was a fair man. I consider","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=653.239,665.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"him, and I think most of the blacks consider him, as a fair man. And then we had Louis","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=665.239,675.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kutcher, who was good. But I don't know the impact that they had in the police department.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=675.239,686.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There have always been a snag there. And this is the reason why I'm saying that Dr. Harry","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=687.239,694.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Caldwell, that was his first name, he had his Ph.D. in criminal justice. And I think","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=694.239,703.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that the mayors had to listen to him. And we could see changes going about. Although","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=703.239,712.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"now, as you know, we have a black chief, have had black chiefs and what have you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=712.239,717.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And sometimes people think that you're going to turn things around just because you have","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=717.239,724.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a black chief, but not necessarily so. So you have to change the attitude of the officers","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=724.239,731.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's out on the beat and out on the street. And you change attitudes of people through","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=731.239,738.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"churches and synagogues and what have you, through schools. Attitudes are changed. But","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=739.239,744.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on the other hand, I think if you present yourself as being a person that is educated,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=744.239,753.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"not necessarily a Ph.D., but present yourself in such a manner, people will accept you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=753.239,759.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Q. Twenty years from now, thirty years from now, when kids hear this, what do you want","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=760.239,767.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"them to know about Houston that you've lived?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=767.239,771.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A. I want them to know that the opportunities are here and opportunities are becoming greater","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=771.239,780.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as I listen to the radio and what they have projected. And not only projected, but what's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=780.239,788.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on the drawing board with Houston planning, it's there. They're having some problems","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=788.239,798.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in there because the growth is moving so fast till the officials down there in the county","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=798.239,805.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and the city, they haven't been able to process them fast enough. So the opportunities are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=805.239,810.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there. So all you have to do is prepare yourself. Preparation is what we need for this city","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=810.239,817.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to advance. And that's the reason why you have people coming from all over the world","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=817.239,824.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's moving into Houston. Because I believe that we always talk about the homeboys. I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821#t=824.239,831.239"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2461/collection_resources/109284/file/210821/transcript/65252/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"believe the homeboys would get a break. 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