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And, Renate, would you spell your name,\nplease?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109720/file/211229#t=37.74,39.99"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109720/file/211229/transcript/64703/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Renate Elgohary:\u003c/strong\u003e  He did already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109720/file/211229#t=40.56,41.86"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109720/file/211229/transcript/64703/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"R-E-N-A-T-E.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109720/file/211229#t=41.86,43.07"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109720/file/211229/transcript/64703/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Irene Cassis:\u003c/strong\u003e  Oh, okay. I didn't, I didn't catch it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109720/file/211229#t=44.12,46.24"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109720/file/211229/transcript/64703/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. How old are you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109720/file/211229#t=46.26,47.94"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109720/file/211229/transcript/64703/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Renate Elgohary:\u003c/strong\u003e  I'm fifty-four.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109720/file/211229#t=49.26,50.37"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109720/file/211229/transcript/64703/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Irene Cassis:\u003c/strong\u003e  Okay. 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Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109720/file/211229#t=67.68,68.13"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109720/file/211229/transcript/64703/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Renate Elgohary:\u003c/strong\u003e  In Houston.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109720/file/211229#t=68.13,68.91"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2471/collection_resources/109720/file/211229/transcript/64703/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003e Irene Cassis:\u003c/strong\u003e All 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