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Meier.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113049/file/215737#t=8.9,10.64"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113049/file/215737/transcript/71715/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mr. Meier, I'd like to talk to you today about some of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113049/file/215737#t=12.86,16.24"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113049/file/215737/transcript/71715/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the people who played an important role in the city.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113049/file/215737#t=16.24,18.8"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113049/file/215737/transcript/71715/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You have given a great deal of information about yourself and about","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113049/file/215737#t=23.38,27.48"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113049/file/215737/transcript/71715/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your business and about some of the people you knew in your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113049/file/215737#t=27.48,30.32"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113049/file/215737/transcript/71715/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"excellent autobiography, The Days of My Years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113049/file/215737#t=30.32,32.94"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113049/file/215737/transcript/71715/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So my purpose today in talking to you is to try 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Houston.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113049/file/215737#t=71.86,75.78"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113049/file/215737/transcript/71715/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Was there a core of men who determined the future course of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113049/file/215737#t=76.7,83.36"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113049/file/215737/transcript/71715/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Houston's 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