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Barry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113231/file/216062#t=2739.29,2739.97"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113231/file/216062/transcript/71726/annotation/830","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Excuse me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113231/file/216062#t=2740.17,2740.63"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113231/file/216062/transcript/71726/annotation/831","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm 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