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identity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112816/file/215421#t=4708.12,4717.83"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112816/file/215421/transcript/63523/annotation/1285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because it has to do\nwith my individual self,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112816/file/215421#t=4717.83,4722.37"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112816/file/215421/transcript/63523/annotation/1286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with a coming to, I am Chicano,\nand then I don't care no 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peaceful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112816/file/215421#t=4795.92,4801.32"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112816/file/215421/transcript/63523/annotation/1307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But if you move from over here--","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112816/file/215421#t=4801.32,4803.48"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112816/file/215421/transcript/63523/annotation/1308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when we went into this\nspace in the 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ex-American.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112816/file/215421#t=4821.345,4824.87"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112816/file/215421/transcript/63523/annotation/1314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know what to\ncall it right now,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112816/file/215421#t=4824.87,4826.76"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112816/file/215421/transcript/63523/annotation/1315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so I just called it the\nex-experience for some 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right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112816/file/215421#t=4835.85,4838.67"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112816/file/215421/transcript/63523/annotation/1318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we know there's no\ncommunication flow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112816/file/215421#t=4838.67,4841.04"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112816/file/215421/transcript/63523/annotation/1319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My point is that,\nyou see, as long 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