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It is Thursday, March 16th,\n2017.\n\n00:00:14.300 --\u003e 00:00:22.760\nValerie Wade: My name is Valerie Wade, and I am here with overseer\nEzzie M. Williams. It's great to be here with you.\n\n00:00:22.790 --\u003e 00:00:24.590\nEzzie Williams: Yes. Same here.\n\n00:00:24.950 --\u003e 00:00:28.430\nValerie Wade: We're gonna start off with a very basic\nquestion.\n\n00:00:28.460 --\u003e 00:00:28.880\nEzzie Williams: Okay.\n\n00:00:28.910 --\u003e 00:00:33.050\nValerie Wade: I'm going to ask you to state your name and birth date\n\n00:00:33.050 --\u003e 00:00:34.550\nValerie Wade: and where you were born.\n\n00:00:34.580 --\u003e 00:00:39.290\nEzzie Williams: Yes. My given name was Ezzie Mae Williams.\n\n00:00:40.880 --\u003e 00:00:47.420\nEzzie Williams: And I was born in Midway, Texas,\nup in Madison County.\n\n00:00:47.570 --\u003e 00:00:52.910\nEzzie Williams: And uh I was born in May 16th, in 1932.\n\n00:00:53.030 --\u003e 00:00:55.070\nEzzie Williams: That would make me eighty-four .\n\n00:00:55.430 --\u003e 00:00:55.670\nValerie Wade: Wow.\n\n00:00:55.700 --\u003e 00:00:58.670\nEzzie Williams: And looking forward to a birthday in May.\n\n00:00:58.700 --\u003e 00:01:00.700\nValerie Wade: Yes. That's a big birthday.\n\n00:01:00.700 --\u003e 00:01:00.700\nEzzie Williams: Yes.\n\n00:01:00.790 --\u003e 00:01:02.230\nValerie Wade: Gonna make eighty-five.\n\n00:01:02.260 --\u003e 00:01:03.220\nEzzie Williams: Yes.\n\n00:01:03.760 --\u003e 00:01:11.200\nValerie Wade: Yes, ma'am. So could you tell me a little bit about\nyour parents and your family growing up?\n\n00:01:11.350 --\u003e 00:01:15.760\nEzzie Williams: Yes. I grew up with my mother and father for.\n\n00:01:15.760 --\u003e 00:01:19.090\nEzzie Williams: For a while. It's a large family.\n\n00:01:19.210 --\u003e 00:01:26.650\nEzzie Williams: And so this is why I didn't continue to live with them.\n\n00:01:27.670 --\u003e 00:01:29.410\nValerie Wade: So it was a really big family?\n\n00:01:29.440 --\u003e 00:01:36.340\nEzzie Williams: Yeah, it was a big family for back there,\nyou would think seven was a big family.\n\n00:01:36.370 --\u003e 00:01:40.780\nEzzie Williams: Well, six at the time that I left.\n\n00:01:40.930 --\u003e 00:01:43.540\nValerie Wade: Wow. So were you the oldest?\n\n00:01:43.600 --\u003e 00:01:48.460\nEzzie Williams: No, I wasn't I was just one in the group.\n\n00:01:49.510 --\u003e 00:01:50.170\nValerie Wade: Just one in the group.\n\n00:01:50.170 --\u003e 00:01:50.170\nEzzie Williams: Um-hm.\n\n00:01:50.170 --\u003e 00:01:52.810\nValerie Wade: So you left home.\n\n00:01:52.810 --\u003e 00:01:55.210\nValerie Wade: What did you do when you when you left home?\n\n00:01:55.600 --\u003e 00:02:02.320\nEzzie Williams: Well, what happened was My dad's cousin.\n\n00:02:02.350 --\u003e 00:02:07.600\nEzzie Williams: She was a schoolteacher and her husband was a pastor.\n\n00:02:07.600 --\u003e 00:02:13.030\nEzzie Williams: And they lived like, in Gilmer, Texas.\n\n00:02:13.030 --\u003e 00:02:21.250\nEzzie Williams: But they would visit one another and she couldn't have\nchildren and she so badly wanted a child.\n\n00:02:21.280 --\u003e 00:02:24.790\nEzzie Williams: And so my mother was just having 'em real fast.\n\n00:02:24.790 --\u003e 00:02:31.690\nEzzie Williams: And so she asked my dad and my mom if\nif she could raise one of my,\n\n00:02:32.230 --\u003e 00:02:36.490\nEzzie Williams: their chiren because they had a house we a houseful.\n\n00:02:37.270 --\u003e 00:02:40.990\nEzzie Williams: And so they said they would think about it.\n\n00:02:41.020 --\u003e 00:02:44.230\nValerie Wade: Which one was she talking about?\n\n00:02:44.740 --\u003e 00:02:49.960\nEzzie Williams: And then she looked around and then she saw me.\n\n00:02:49.960 --\u003e 00:02:51.730\nEzzie Williams: She said, \"I want that one.\"\n\n00:02:51.970 --\u003e 00:02:56.440\nValerie Wade: Wow. That's a really interesting story.\n\n00:02:56.470 --\u003e 00:02:59.050\nValerie Wade: So it was like an informal adoption?\n\n00:02:59.080 --\u003e 00:03:04.810\nEzzie Williams: Yes. When she said, \"I would love to [telephone rings]\nI would love to have her.\"\n\n00:03:04.840 --\u003e 00:03:08.800\nValerie Wade: So you were adopted by a family member?\n\n00:03:08.830 --\u003e 00:03:09.460\nEzzie Williams: Yes.\n\n00:03:09.490 --\u003e 00:03:16.810\nValerie Wade: And what was that like? Were you still in contact with\nyour birth family or how did that work?\n\n00:03:16.840 --\u003e 00:03:25.990\nEzzie Williams: Well, we lived like about three hundred miles away,\nand it was like I couldn't see 'em too often.\n\n00:03:26.290 --\u003e 00:03:35.740\nEzzie Williams: And I remember when I first got there,\nI ran out to the gate and I pointed down the streets I\n\n00:03:35.770 --\u003e 00:03:43.510\nEzzie Williams: said, \"Oh,I live way down yonder\" because I knew we\nhad traveled for so long.\n\n00:03:43.540 --\u003e 00:03:44.260\nValerie Wade: Oh, wow.\n\n00:03:44.290 --\u003e 00:03:44.860\nEzzie Williams: Yeah.\n\n00:03:44.980 --\u003e 00:03:50.980\nValerie Wade: That is a long way. So what was your life like then\ngrowing up?\n\n00:03:50.980 --\u003e 00:03:54.070\nValerie Wade: How old were you? Um, when you were adopted?\n\n00:03:54.100 --\u003e 00:03:55.750\nEzzie Williams: I was about three.\n\n00:03:55.780 --\u003e 00:03:57.190\nValerie Wade: About three. So you were very small.\n\n00:03:57.220 --\u003e 00:03:58.150\nEzzie Williams: Yes.\n\n00:03:58.550 --\u003e 00:04:00.710\nValerie Wade: So you grew up, you went to school?\n\n00:04:01.370 --\u003e 00:04:09.140\nEzzie Williams: Yes. Because she was a teacher,\nand in those days they taught more than one class,\n\n00:04:09.350 --\u003e 00:04:12.500\nEzzie Williams: and they were or at one time.\n\n00:04:12.860 --\u003e 00:04:17.930\nEzzie Williams: And so we like was the first and second and third.\n\n00:04:17.960 --\u003e 00:04:25.790\nEzzie Williams: Maybe she taught those three classes and,\nand then we, we had a class called prima,\n\n00:04:26.540 --\u003e 00:04:31.280\nEzzie Williams: what we call kindergarten now they would call it prima.\n\n00:04:32.060 --\u003e 00:04:37.580\nEzzie Williams: So they would be I guess in that priming you for the\nnext class.\n\n00:04:37.940 --\u003e 00:04:48.020\nEzzie Williams: But they changed it to kindergarten. And so I started off at the,\nin that class and and reading and reading.\n\n00:04:48.050 --\u003e 00:04:53.810\nEzzie Williams: And so she said I read thirteen books for I actually\nstarted school.\n\n00:04:53.840 --\u003e 00:04:54.560\nValerie Wade: Wow.\n\n00:04:54.560 --\u003e 00:04:54.560\nEzzie Williams: Umm Hmm.\n\n00:04:54.920 --\u003e 00:04:55.910\nValerie Wade: That's impressive.\n\n00:04:56.180 --\u003e 00:04:56.510\nEzzie Williams: Mmm.\n\n00:04:57.160 --\u003e 00:05:00.700\nValerie Wade: So that's great. So you attended school?\n\n00:05:00.910 --\u003e 00:05:06.190\nValerie Wade: Were there any interesting things that affected you\nwhen you were in,\n\n00:05:06.220 --\u003e 00:05:12.790\nValerie Wade: you know, primer through maybe twelfth grade or\nwhatever age you were when when you left?\n\n00:05:13.390 --\u003e 00:05:23.230\nEzzie Williams: No, I was just very active, and very I wanted to learn\nand I wanted to\n\n00:05:23.230 --\u003e 00:05:31.870\nEzzie Williams: be the best. So I guess you could say I was very\ncompetitive and especially in spelling.\n\n00:05:32.170 --\u003e 00:05:41.800\nEzzie Williams: And so I hated that we would have a line of\nspelling, and one would stay at the head of the,\n\n00:05:41.830 --\u003e 00:05:46.300\nEzzie Williams: of the spelling class. And I always wanted to be at the\nhead.\n\n00:05:46.690 --\u003e 00:05:55.960\nEzzie Williams: And one incident happened,\nsomebody, I got, I missed the word and somebody got\n\n00:05:55.960 --\u003e 00:05:57.970\nEzzie Williams: that spot and I cried.\n\n00:05:58.060 --\u003e 00:05:58.600\nValerie Wade: Aww.\n\n00:05:59.500 --\u003e 00:06:02.250\nEzzie Williams: Oh no. But I got it back. (both laugh)\n\n00:06:04.330 --\u003e 00:06:08.170\nValerie Wade: Well, that's good. That's good.\n\n00:06:08.860 --\u003e 00:06:17.650\nValerie Wade: All right then. Well moving forward a little bit I\nguess into your teenage years or young womanhood were\n\n00:06:17.650 --\u003e 00:06:24.250\nValerie Wade: there any events that happened to you that sort of\ninfluenced you to go into ministry?\n\n00:06:25.510 --\u003e 00:06:30.820\nEzzie Williams: Yes. Because at that time,\nthey were very strict Methodist,\n\n00:06:30.850 --\u003e 00:06:39.220\nEzzie Williams: and he was a methodist pastor,\nand she was a musician at their church and.\n\n00:06:40.240 --\u003e 00:06:43.600\nValerie Wade: What were their names and what was the name of their\nchurch?\n\n00:06:43.630 --\u003e 00:06:47.770\nEzzie Williams: It was Estella, Bailey. Estella.\n\n00:06:48.220 --\u003e 00:06:50.800\nEzzie Williams: At that time she was Tramble.\n\n00:06:51.130 --\u003e 00:06:58.380\nEzzie Williams: Estella Tramble. I don't remember his first name,\nbut I always called him Big Daddy.\n\n00:06:58.770 --\u003e 00:07:02.790\nValerie Wade: So Big Daddy led the church.\n\n00:07:02.100 --\u003e 00:07:02.790\nEzzie Williams: Uh-huh.\n\n00:07:03.300 --\u003e 00:07:07.950\nValerie Wade: And so you were in a strict family growing up.\n\n00:07:05.670 --\u003e 00:07:07.950\nEzzie Williams: um-hm.\n\n00:07:05.670 --\u003e 00:07:11.550\nValerie Wade: And then sort of, you know,\nas you got a little bit older,\n\n00:07:11.580 --\u003e 00:07:16.290\nValerie Wade: what happened? Did you stay in the church or did you\nleave and go out on your own?\n\n00:07:16.410 --\u003e 00:07:25.680\nEzzie Williams: Well, as time. I stayed in the church and I worked as\nyou know,\n\n00:07:25.710 --\u003e 00:07:33.840\nEzzie Williams: that,you know, pastor's kids do and did all the things\nthat I could do in the church.\n\n00:07:33.990 --\u003e 00:07:42.870\nEzzie Williams: And so by her being a teacher,\nwell she kept me both places,\n\n00:07:42.870 --\u003e 00:07:48.360\nEzzie Williams: and I didn't have time for any kinda worldly music.\n\n00:07:49.350 --\u003e 00:07:51.990\nEzzie Williams: No secular music or anything was played.\n\n00:07:51.990 --\u003e 00:07:54.420\nEzzie Williams: So we they all had gospel.\n\n00:07:54.450 --\u003e 00:07:54.960\nValerie Wade: Wow.\n\n00:07:56.090 --\u003e 00:08:03.320\nEzzie Williams: um-hm. So that's one thing that really got into my\nspirit was gospel and ministry.\n\n00:08:03.320 --\u003e 00:08:07.340\nEzzie Williams: And, you know, and being a Christian.\n\n00:08:07.850 --\u003e 00:08:08.480\nEzzie Williams: Yeah.\n\n00:08:08.510 --\u003e 00:08:14.180\nValerie Wade: Great, great. So what happened as you got a little bit\nolder?\n\n00:08:14.720 --\u003e 00:08:19.400\nValerie Wade: Was there an incident that sort of led you to build\nyour own church,\n\n00:08:19.400 --\u003e 00:08:24.050\nValerie Wade: or were you an apprentice to someone just sort of like,\n\n00:08:24.080 --\u003e 00:08:27.920\nValerie Wade: lead us forward as you reached adulthood.\n\n00:08:28.460 --\u003e 00:08:38.300\nEzzie Williams: Okay. As I skip down to adulthood I always went to\nchurch.\n\n00:08:38.330 --\u003e 00:08:45.350\nEzzie Williams: I belonged to a local church,\nand and I kept going to church.\n\n00:08:45.350 --\u003e 00:08:53.570\nEzzie Williams: But I did experience the world,\nand I did do things, you know you know,\n\n00:08:53.600 --\u003e 00:08:59.950\nEzzie Williams: went to dance places and places like that where we\nwould dance teenage places.\n\n00:08:59.950 --\u003e 00:09:06.220\nEzzie Williams: And they used to have in Houston,\nwhere the teenagers would go,\n\n00:09:06.220 --\u003e 00:09:11.680\nEzzie Williams: and they didn't have no alcoholic drinks and they could\ndance.\n\n00:09:11.680 --\u003e 00:09:14.380\nEzzie Williams: And so, a lot of teenagers met there.\n\n00:09:16.030 --\u003e 00:09:18.880\nEzzie Williams: So, we had a lot of fun in that.\n\n00:09:18.910 --\u003e 00:09:28.810\nEzzie Williams: Then you know further down I begin,\nI was thinking more about my school work and then\n\n00:09:28.870 --\u003e 00:09:36.970\nEzzie Williams: I, then I did finally you know you join church and,\nand prayed.\n\n00:09:36.970 --\u003e 00:09:46.540\nEzzie Williams: And so one day I did ask my pastor if I could have a\nprayer meeting for three nights.\n\n00:09:46.540 --\u003e 00:09:46.540\nValerie Wade: Wow.\n\n00:09:47.020 --\u003e 00:09:55.810\nEzzie Williams: And he said that I could. And so you we had a little\ngroup there that came and we prayed the three nights\n\n00:09:55.810 --\u003e 00:10:00.130\nEzzie Williams: and I felt so excited, like I was really obeying God.\n\n00:10:00.400 --\u003e 00:10:02.770\nValerie Wade: Wow. That's good. So he made.\n\n00:10:02.800 --\u003e 00:10:05.680\nValerie Wade: Were you leading the the prayer nights?\n\n00:10:05.710 --\u003e 00:10:05.950\nEzzie Williams: Yeah.\n\n00:10:05.710 --\u003e 00:10:05.950\nValerie Wade: Wow.\n\n00:10:06.340 --\u003e 00:10:08.320\nEzzie Williams: I was leading the prayer nights.\n\n00:10:08.440 --\u003e 00:10:13.180\nValerie Wade: So is this the same church you grew up in,\nor was this a different church?\n\n00:10:13.390 --\u003e 00:10:15.130\nEzzie Williams: This was a different church.\n\n00:10:15.160 --\u003e 00:10:15.520\nValerie Wade: Okay.\n\n00:10:15.160 --\u003e 00:10:16.960\nEzzie Williams: After I moved to Houston.\n\n00:10:16.090 --\u003e 00:10:16.960\nValerie Wade: Wow.\n\n00:10:17.680 --\u003e 00:10:19.990\nEzzie Williams: I didn't go back to Methodist.\n\n00:10:21.160 --\u003e 00:10:23.680\nValerie Wade: What was the name of the church in Houston?\n\n00:10:23.860 --\u003e 00:10:32.950\nEzzie Williams: Yeah. It was the name of this particular church was\nPark Hill Church of God in Christ.\n\n00:10:33.520 --\u003e 00:10:34.900\nValerie Wade: Park Hill Church of God in Christ.\n\n00:10:34.390 --\u003e 00:10:34.900\nEzzie Williams: um-hm.\n\n00:10:35.290 --\u003e 00:10:39.790\nValerie Wade: Okay. So that is. Is that like a Pentecostal\ndenomination?\n\n00:10:40.150 --\u003e 00:10:40.420\nEzzie Williams: Yes.\n\n00:10:40.150 --\u003e 00:10:44.560\nValerie Wade: Yes, ma'am. So that's sort of where you got your start.\n\n00:10:44.590 --\u003e 00:10:45.940\nValerie Wade: Like you had the three nights\n\n00:10:46.330 --\u003e 00:10:47.080\nEzzie Williams: Yes.\n\n00:10:46.330 --\u003e 00:10:49.390\nValerie Wade: prayer and then it went it went from there.\n\n00:10:50.020 --\u003e 00:10:57.810\nEzzie Williams: It went from there, from teaching and you know,\nthey let me some nights and things like that.\n\n00:10:57.810 --\u003e 00:11:00.180\nEzzie Williams: So it kind of went from there.\n\n00:11:00.210 --\u003e 00:11:02.010\nEzzie Williams: My bass training.\n\n00:11:02.280 --\u003e 00:11:11.070\nValerie Wade: Wow. Okay. Well, I know that a big part of your legacy is\nbeing a woman in ministry.\n\n00:11:10.200 --\u003e 00:11:11.070\nEzzie Williams: um-hm.\n\n00:11:11.820 --\u003e 00:11:18.000\nValerie Wade: Did you face any difficulties at that time when you\nwere getting started because you were a woman?\n\n00:11:18.690 --\u003e 00:11:24.360\nEzzie Williams: Not it didn't start but when I,\nwhen I started to preach,\n\n00:11:24.990 --\u003e 00:11:28.560\nEzzie Williams: that's when I faced it. Adversary.\n\n00:11:29.100 --\u003e 00:11:38.700\nEzzie Williams: (Inaudible)-- because actually the men felt they were\nahead and the women should not\n\n00:11:38.700 --\u003e 00:11:44.760\nEzzie Williams: preach. They should just possibly teach class.\n\n00:11:45.330 --\u003e 00:11:48.720\nEzzie Williams: And teach Sunday school and things like that.\n\n00:11:48.720 --\u003e 00:11:54.980\nEzzie Williams: But they felt like that. They were really prejudiced\nagainst the women\n\n00:11:55.010 --\u003e 00:11:57.920\nEzzie Williams: pastors are trying to lead other men.\n\n00:11:58.040 --\u003e 00:11:59.390\nValerie Wade: Wow. Okay.\n\n00:11:58.760 --\u003e 00:11:59.390\nEzzie Williams: um-hm.\n\n00:12:00.530 --\u003e 00:12:09.140\nValerie Wade: So how did you go from leading,\nyou know, the three prayer nights into having your own\n\n00:12:09.140 --\u003e 00:12:11.750\nValerie Wade: church? Like, walk us through that.\n\n00:12:12.050 --\u003e 00:12:19.610\nEzzie Williams: Well, there was a long story,\nbecause for years, I just,\n\n00:12:19.610 --\u003e 00:12:25.040\nEzzie Williams: like, did ministry, like, go to different churches and\nspeak.\n\n00:12:25.370 --\u003e 00:12:29.030\nEzzie Williams: And then the speaking engagement would turn into,\nlike,\n\n00:12:29.030 --\u003e 00:12:35.180\nEzzie Williams: three nights, revival into four nights,\nrevival to five nights revival.\n\n00:12:36.440 --\u003e 00:12:46.190\nEzzie Williams: And it grew like that. And um I'm going to then it\nstarted going from place to place because\n\n00:12:46.190 --\u003e 00:12:49.070\nEzzie Williams: people began to hear about me.\n\n00:12:49.100 --\u003e 00:12:57.500\nEzzie Williams: Then I started to do some traveling because some of \nthe people that heard me,\n\n00:12:57.530 --\u003e 00:13:02.180\nEzzie Williams: but they were out of the state,\nwould tell their pastor about me,\n\n00:13:02.240 --\u003e 00:13:08.300\nEzzie Williams: and that would give me a chance to get an open-door to\ngo there and speak.\n\n00:13:09.110 --\u003e 00:13:10.310\nEzzie Williams: Yeah. That's great.\n\n00:13:10.670 --\u003e 00:13:16.940\nValerie Wade: So about what time period was this about how old were\nyou and what years were passing?\n\n00:13:17.240 --\u003e 00:13:21.920\nEzzie Williams: Well, I was in my early thirties because I.\n\n00:13:21.920 --\u003e 00:13:26.420\nEzzie Williams: I received Christ fully in my life at the age of\ntwenty-nine.\n\n00:13:28.730 --\u003e 00:13:32.210\nValerie Wade: So twenty-nine and that's when you were with the Church of\nGod in Christ?\n\n00:13:32.990 --\u003e 00:13:33.650\nEzzie Williams: um-hm.\n\n00:13:32.990 --\u003e 00:13:38.300\nValerie Wade: Okay. All right. So um so right now you are a young\nwoman,\n\n00:13:38.300 --\u003e 00:13:39.440\nValerie Wade: early thirties.\n\n00:13:38.690 --\u003e 00:13:39.440\nEzzie Williams: Uh-huh.\n\n00:13:39.770 --\u003e 00:13:45.590\nValerie Wade: You are preaching and teaching and leading revivals in\nthe area.\n\n00:13:45.020 --\u003e 00:13:45.590\nEzzie Williams: Yes uh-huh.\n\n00:13:46.280 --\u003e 00:13:48.380\nValerie Wade: So making a name for yourself.\n\n00:13:49.070 --\u003e 00:13:49.490\nEzzie Williams: Uh-huh.\n\n00:13:49.070 --\u003e 00:13:53.890\nValerie Wade: What happened next? Like how did you come to have your\nown church?\n\n00:13:53.920 --\u003e 00:13:59.770\nEzzie Williams: Well, it's first. I started out on radio.\n\n00:14:00.100 --\u003e 00:14:07.030\nEzzie Williams: So I, I said, well, I wanted to I was very zealous too.\n\n00:14:07.450 --\u003e 00:14:12.160\nEzzie Williams: I was very zealous for God and I wanted to do things.\n\n00:14:12.160 --\u003e 00:14:21.760\nEzzie Williams: And so I start off with the radio ministry uh fifteen\nminutes and on the\n\n00:14:21.760 --\u003e 00:14:25.450\nEzzie Williams: radio to to bring my messages.\n\n00:14:25.480 --\u003e 00:14:32.080\nEzzie Williams: So it was so strange at that time,\nfifteen minutes was $12.50.\n\n00:14:32.200 --\u003e 00:14:37.480\nEzzie Williams: Wow. And so I would pay my $12.50.\n\n00:14:37.510 --\u003e 00:14:44.020\nEzzie Williams: And I went on my fifteen minutes and,\nyou know, and so I enjoyed doing that.\n\n00:14:44.020 --\u003e 00:14:45.700\nEzzie Williams: I did that for a while.\n\n00:14:45.730 --\u003e 00:14:48.580\nValerie Wade: Do you know which station that was?\n\n00:14:48.850 --\u003e 00:14:50.890\nEzzie Williams: Well, I remember Skipper Lee.\n\n00:14:50.410 --\u003e 00:14:50.890\nValerie Wade: Skipper Lee?\n\n00:14:53.310 --\u003e 00:14:53.490\nEzzie Williams: Yeah.\n\n00:14:54.270 --\u003e 00:14:55.800\nValerie Wade: Is that KPFT or?\n\n00:14:58.650 --\u003e 00:15:09.090\nEzzie Williams: I can't remember what station I was on,\nbut I remember I remember that it was a Black.\n\n00:15:10.290 --\u003e 00:15:11.130\nValerie Wade: Um-hm, a Black station.\n\n00:15:11.160 --\u003e 00:15:11.910\nEzzie Williams: Yeah.\n\n00:15:12.210 --\u003e 00:15:13.980\nValerie Wade: Okay, that's really interesting.\n\n00:15:14.460 --\u003e 00:15:18.720\nValerie Wade: So you had a radio, I guess a radio ministry.\n\n00:15:18.090 --\u003e 00:15:18.720\nEzzie Williams: Um-hm.\n\n00:15:19.950 --\u003e 00:15:24.120\nValerie Wade: And how did that progress? Did your audience grow?\n\n00:15:24.150 --\u003e 00:15:33.630\nEzzie Williams: Yes. And then I went to thirty minutes and I started to\ndo it for thirty minutes.\n\n00:15:33.660 --\u003e 00:15:43.170\nEzzie Williams: And he was real nice to me the uh the broadcaster and\nhe told me that if I start\n\n00:15:43.170 --\u003e 00:15:48.270\nEzzie Williams: preaching and, and he said that,\n\"Don't worry about the time.\n\n00:15:48.270 --\u003e 00:15:55.460\nEzzie Williams: Just finish my message, he said,\n\"Because after you I'ma play music anyway.\" So it was a\n\n00:15:55.460 --\u003e 00:16:00.650\nEzzie Williams: station that played gospel music and sometimes they\nwould have preaching.\n\n00:16:00.770 --\u003e 00:16:02.090\nValerie Wade: Wow. That's great.\n\n00:16:02.750 --\u003e 00:16:02.870\nEzzie Williams: Uh-huh.\n\n00:16:02.750 --\u003e 00:16:11.690\nValerie Wade: That is. Great. So what happened as you sort of grew in\nyour radio ministry, what happened next?\n\n00:16:11.930 --\u003e 00:16:16.160\nEzzie Williams: Well, I went from from the radio ministry.\n\n00:16:16.910 --\u003e 00:16:27.530\nEzzie Williams: I wanted to get in TV. And so first I had talked to a\nlady\n\n00:16:28.610 --\u003e 00:16:37.400\nEzzie Williams: about it and at the television station,\nand she said that they do have\n\n00:16:38.870 --\u003e 00:16:48.530\nEzzie Williams: a time on television station that they,\nthey give that you don't have to pay and\n\n00:16:48.530 --\u003e 00:16:55.430\nEzzie Williams: they, they give you like fifteen minutes on the on-on\nthe television station.\n\n00:16:55.460 --\u003e 00:17:00.110\nEzzie Williams: But they were using different ministries in the city.\n\n00:16:59.300 --\u003e 00:17:00.110\nValerie Wade: Okay.\n\n00:17:00.440 --\u003e 00:17:06.980\nEzzie Williams: It wasn't just for one person,\nbut they they would let me know.\n\n00:17:07.100 --\u003e 00:17:07.880\nValerie Wade: Okay.\n\n00:17:07.100 --\u003e 00:17:07.880\nEzzie Williams: um-hm.\n\n00:17:09.230 --\u003e 00:17:09.590\nValerie Wade: Wow.\n\n00:17:09.620 --\u003e 00:17:12.650\nEzzie Williams: So lately I did hear from them.\n\n00:17:12.650 --\u003e 00:17:21.770\nEzzie Williams: And when I heard from them they asked me to come and to\nbring about a choir whatever I wanted to bring.\n\n00:17:21.920 --\u003e 00:17:29.360\nEzzie Williams: I could come and speak. Now I may be getting a little\nahead of myself when I said choir,\n\n00:17:29.360 --\u003e 00:17:32.150\nEzzie Williams: because at first it was just me.\n\n00:17:32.450 --\u003e 00:17:35.960\nValerie Wade: Oh, wow. Okay. So you had um.\n\n00:17:35.960 --\u003e 00:17:36.410\nValerie Wade: (mic interference)\n\n00:17:45.800 --\u003e 00:17:49.600\nValerie Wade: Well, you had your TV ministry.\n\n00:17:49.600 --\u003e 00:17:56.710\nValerie Wade: And so that started off. And did it grow and grow or\nhow long did you do that for?\n\n00:17:56.770 --\u003e 00:18:01.960\nEzzie Williams: Well, like I said, it wasn't really for me.\n\n00:18:02.320 --\u003e 00:18:06.910\nEzzie Williams: It was for the community. And they had other speakers.\n\n00:18:06.940 --\u003e 00:18:12.220\nEzzie Williams: Pastors would come in and speak and do things at that\ntime.\n\n00:18:12.520 --\u003e 00:18:16.990\nEzzie Williams: And then later they called me.\n\n00:18:17.020 --\u003e 00:18:26.680\nEzzie Williams: It was a lady that called me and asked me if I could\ncome down and, and\n\n00:18:27.130 --\u003e 00:18:31.240\nEzzie Williams: bring my choir after I had start pastoring then.\n\n00:18:31.240 --\u003e 00:18:39.730\nEzzie Williams: I had a choir, and she said to come down and bring the\nchoir in and and say a few words,\n\n00:18:39.730 --\u003e 00:18:47.050\nEzzie Williams: encouraging words, not just preach,\nbut say some encouraging words and let the choir sing.\n\n00:18:47.050 --\u003e 00:18:50.850\nEzzie Williams: And I did that and that was very good.\n\n00:18:50.940 --\u003e 00:18:55.890\nValerie Wade: Wow. That's great. So you mentioned at this point in\ntime you had a choir.\n\n00:18:56.610 --\u003e 00:18:59.190\nValerie Wade: So I'm assuming that you had your own church.\n\n00:18:59.220 --\u003e 00:18:59.760\nEzzie Williams: Yes.\n\n00:18:59.790 --\u003e 00:19:00.570\nValerie Wade: At this point.\n\n00:19:00.600 --\u003e 00:19:00.840\nEzzie Williams: Right.\n\n00:19:00.870 --\u003e 00:19:06.930\nValerie Wade: So could you tell us about your church,\nthe name, what year it was established,\n\n00:19:07.110 --\u003e 00:19:09.660\nValerie Wade: and you know, your story behind your church?\n\n00:19:09.690 --\u003e 00:19:19.260\nEzzie Williams: Well, in 1973, it was my well,\nI was\n\n00:19:19.260 --\u003e 00:19:27.660\nEzzie Williams: going to my own church and which was still the Church\nof God in Christ.\n\n00:19:27.690 --\u003e 00:19:35.550\nEzzie Williams: And so, my I had my teenage daughter,\nand she was with a group.\n\n00:19:35.580 --\u003e 00:19:40.650\nEzzie Williams: They was having prayer in church,\nand she came home so excited.\n\n00:19:40.770 --\u003e 00:19:43.230\nEzzie Williams: So she said, \"Mom, I want you to come see this.\n\n00:19:44.070 --\u003e 00:19:51.140\nEzzie Williams: This group, they are all young and we have church over\nthere.\" So I said,\n\n00:19:51.170 --\u003e 00:19:58.670\nEzzie Williams: \"Oh, fine okay.\" And so when I went over there to see,\nyou know,\n\n00:19:58.700 --\u003e 00:20:05.600\nEzzie Williams: what was going on, they did have a young people like\nfrom teenagers and early twenties,\n\n00:20:05.630 --\u003e 00:20:10.010\nEzzie Williams: you know, that was meeting there having services.\n\n00:20:10.280 --\u003e 00:20:19.850\nEzzie Williams: And so I started going from time to time and,\nand helping them pray with them,\n\n00:20:21.200 --\u003e 00:20:25.160\nEzzie Williams: things like that, doing that.\n\n00:20:25.160 --\u003e 00:20:35.090\nEzzie Williams: And then from there I, one of the young ladies got sick\nand and so\n\n00:20:35.090 --\u003e 00:20:41.360\nEzzie Williams: she, she was very sick. And so I went to her house to\npray for her.\n\n00:20:41.450 --\u003e 00:20:46.190\nEzzie Williams: And so when I went to, went to her home,\nshe had been in the hospital.\n\n00:20:46.190 --\u003e 00:20:54.110\nEzzie Williams: So she I went there and and so when I prayed for her,\nshe just start rejoicing.\n\n00:20:54.170 --\u003e 00:20:58.460\nEzzie Williams: She just got up out of the bed,\nand she was just healed immediately.\n\n00:20:58.790 --\u003e 00:21:02.510\nEzzie Williams: And so they were so excited.\n\n00:21:02.510 --\u003e 00:21:06.200\nEzzie Williams: And mom was excited. And everybody.\n\n00:21:06.320 --\u003e 00:21:12.380\nEzzie Williams: Well, I had a prayer service going on once a week in my\nhome.\n\n00:21:12.620 --\u003e 00:21:18.080\nEzzie Williams: And so they all got together I didn't know they was\ngone do this.\n\n00:21:18.800 --\u003e 00:21:22.940\nEzzie Williams: They got together and said,\nLet's go to a prayer service.\n\n00:21:23.600 --\u003e 00:21:28.760\nEzzie Williams: And so they came over to my house,\nto my prayer service.\n\n00:21:28.790 --\u003e 00:21:37.790\nEzzie Williams: I had other people there, of course. And so they got\nblessed and God really moved.\n\n00:21:37.790 --\u003e 00:21:44.780\nEzzie Williams: And then they started telling some horror stories about\nthe place that they were going,\n\n00:21:44.810 --\u003e 00:21:54.430\nEzzie Williams: and how that they were doing strange things over there,\nburning candles and praying to cows and a lot of\n\n00:21:54.430 --\u003e 00:21:58.450\nEzzie Williams: different stuff. And I told them that wasn't real\ngospel.\n\n00:21:58.480 --\u003e 00:22:03.610\nEzzie Williams: I said, \"You don't have to you pray to God not you don't\nhave to use candles.\"\n\n00:22:03.610 --\u003e 00:22:09.700\nEzzie Williams: And I told them a lot of things to,\nyou know, straighten they life out,\n\n00:22:09.820 --\u003e 00:22:18.550\nEzzie Williams: you know. And so this is really how the church begun,\nbecause I wanted to take them somewhere where they\n\n00:22:18.550 --\u003e 00:22:19.180\nEzzie Williams: would hear the truth.\n\n00:22:19.180 --\u003e 00:22:23.470\nEzzie Williams: And so, at that time, it was about eight of 'em.\n\n00:22:23.860 --\u003e 00:22:28.720\nEzzie Williams: And I said, \"Well, I want to take you probably take you\n\n00:22:28.720 --\u003e 00:22:38.590\nEzzie Williams: to my church home or somewhere where you can learn\nabout the Word of God and be free from that.\" And\n\n00:22:38.590 --\u003e 00:22:43.720\nEzzie Williams: so that's how I was praying about it.\n\n00:22:44.500 --\u003e 00:22:47.070\nEzzie Williams: And I said, \"Lord, where should I take 'em?\n\n00:22:47.100 --\u003e 00:22:51.360\nEzzie Williams: Should I take 'em at this church and go.\" I was praying\nabout it,\n\n00:22:51.360 --\u003e 00:22:55.560\nEzzie Williams: and I heard the Lord speak to me and said,\n\"No, you take 'em.\n\n00:22:55.560 --\u003e 00:22:59.430\nEzzie Williams: You teach 'em yourself.\"\n\n00:23:01.980 --\u003e 00:23:03.030\nValerie Wade: That's really interesting.\n\n00:23:03.060 --\u003e 00:23:07.710\nEzzie Williams: So the next time I had. Next time I had Bible study.\n\n00:23:08.280 --\u003e 00:23:14.070\nEzzie Williams: I asked them, I told 'em what the Lord said,\nand I asked them,\n\n00:23:14.100 --\u003e 00:23:16.830\nEzzie Williams: did they want me to find him a church home?\n\n00:23:17.370 --\u003e 00:23:19.500\nEzzie Williams: Or did they want me to teach them?\n\n00:23:19.500 --\u003e 00:23:23.610\nEzzie Williams: I wanted to get their input on what they wanted.\n\n00:23:23.880 --\u003e 00:23:31.680\nEzzie Williams: I said, \"Do you want me to teach y'all and y'all just\ngather here and I teach you or do you want to go to\n\n00:23:31.680 --\u003e 00:23:35.820\nEzzie Williams: a church?\" And they said, We want you.\n\n00:23:35.850 --\u003e 00:23:38.790\nEzzie Williams: We believe in you we want you to teach us.\n\n00:23:39.390 --\u003e 00:23:48.900\nEzzie Williams: And so I said, \"Well, I need you to say that one by one\nbecause I don't want nobody say that I pulled you off\n\n00:23:48.900 --\u003e 00:23:51.410\nEzzie Williams: from anywhere.\" So they did.\n\n00:23:51.410 --\u003e 00:23:56.520\nEzzie Williams: One by one, they stood up and said that they really\nwanted me to do it.\n\n00:23:57.810 --\u003e 00:23:58.500\nValerie Wade: Wow, that's great.\n\n00:23:58.530 --\u003e 00:24:02.280\nEzzie Williams: That's when the deliverance started.\n\n00:24:00.120 --\u003e 00:24:02.280\nValerie Wade: Wow.\n\n00:24:00.120 --\u003e 00:24:03.390\nEzzie Williams: From eight souls.\n\n00:24:03.540 --\u003e 00:24:05.640\nValerie Wade: Wow. That is great.\n\n00:24:05.670 --\u003e 00:24:05.790\nEzzie Williams: Um-hm.\n\n00:24:05.790 --\u003e 00:24:07.650\nValerie Wade: And that was in the early seventies.\n\n00:24:07.680 --\u003e 00:24:11.760\nEzzie Williams: Yeah, that was in '73, to be precise.\n\n00:24:11.940 --\u003e 00:24:13.290\nValerie Wade: In 1973.\n\n00:24:13.320 --\u003e 00:24:13.740\nEzzie Williams: Yeah.\n\n00:24:14.010 --\u003e 00:24:18.090\nValerie Wade: So you've had your church going in '73.\n\n00:24:18.120 --\u003e 00:24:24.630\nValerie Wade: What are some things that have happened since that time\nthat are significant for you,\n\n00:24:24.660 --\u003e 00:24:28.500\nValerie Wade: or things that you want people to know about your\nministry,\n\n00:24:28.500 --\u003e 00:24:33.000\nValerie Wade: about being a woman in ministry or about your church's\nlegacy?\n\n00:24:33.030 --\u003e 00:24:41.989\nEzzie Williams: Yes. In 1973, we had I had no money,\nreally, you know,\n\n00:24:41.989 --\u003e 00:24:44.780\nEzzie Williams: and to build a church, anything.\n\n00:24:44.900 --\u003e 00:24:47.810\nEzzie Williams: So we looked for a building.\n\n00:24:47.810 --\u003e 00:24:52.310\nEzzie Williams: And so I found a building not far from my house.\n\n00:24:52.490 --\u003e 00:25:00.800\nEzzie Williams: And we had among those eight it was one of them was a\ncarpenter by trade.\n\n00:25:01.220 --\u003e 00:25:06.680\nEzzie Williams: And so he said, \"Oh, we could fix this building up real\nnice.\" And he said,\n\n00:25:06.710 --\u003e 00:25:12.770\nEzzie Williams: \"And we could have service here.\" So we found the\nbuilding and he fixed it up.\n\n \n00:25:12.770 --\u003e 00:25:22.089\nEzzie Williams: And in those days the inside paneling was popular\n\n00:25:22.089 --\u003e 00:25:27.020\nEzzie Williams: and, you know, the wood paneling that was very popular\nin\n\n00:25:27.020 --\u003e 00:25:32.720\nEzzie Williams: hose days. And he fixed it up with the wood paneling\nand made it look real nice.\n\n00:25:32.780 --\u003e 00:25:42.500\nEzzie Williams: And we did I had chairs, which is another story,\nbut I had chairs left over from my tent\n\n00:25:42.500 --\u003e 00:25:48.160\nEzzie Williams: ministry. And and so that's how I started the church.\n\n00:25:48.250 --\u003e 00:25:56.500\nValerie Wade: Wow wow, that's amazing. So your church now is active.\n\n00:25:56.500 --\u003e 00:26:00.760\nValerie Wade: What are some things that that your church does in the\ncommunity,\n\n00:26:00.790 --\u003e 00:26:03.790\nValerie Wade: or what is your church's role in the community?\n\n00:26:03.820 --\u003e 00:26:05.560\nValerie Wade: What neighborhood is it in?\n\n00:26:06.340 --\u003e 00:26:13.120\nEzzie Williams: Well, actually, at that time,\nwe were in the Settegast area.\n\n00:26:13.150 --\u003e 00:26:13.660\nValerie Wade: Okay.\n\n00:26:13.690 --\u003e 00:26:19.840\nEzzie Williams: And we built a church in the Settegast area.\n\n00:26:20.380 --\u003e 00:26:25.690\nEzzie Williams: So we built a we were in the little building for about\nfive years.\n\n00:26:25.870 --\u003e 00:26:30.070\nEzzie Williams: And at that time, we were ready to build.\n\n00:26:30.550 --\u003e 00:26:36.220\nEzzie Williams: And my husband and I found some land with an old church\non it.\n\n00:26:36.220 --\u003e 00:26:41.350\nEzzie Williams: And so we bought the land. My husband and I bought the\nland,\n\n00:26:41.350 --\u003e 00:26:51.240\nEzzie Williams: and had it had to be cleared off,\nand one of the members said that they would pay to get\n\n00:26:51.240 --\u003e 00:26:53.880\nEzzie Williams: it cleaned and hauled away.\n\n00:26:54.510 --\u003e 00:26:59.880\nEzzie Williams: And so then we just had the land and to build.\n\n00:26:59.880 --\u003e 00:27:09.360\nEzzie Williams: So, then we the building started our new church started\non Sunbury \u0026 Heights.\n\n00:27:09.690 --\u003e 00:27:10.150\nValerie Wade: Okay.\n\n00:27:10.150 --\u003e 00:27:10.150\nEzzie Williams: Um-hmm.\n\n00:27:10.150 --\u003e 00:27:12.660\nValerie Wade: That's great. Thats great.\n\n00:27:13.470 --\u003e 00:27:19.470\nValerie Wade: So what has been your church's effect\n\n00:27:19.470 --\u003e 00:27:24.270\nValerie Wade: on Houston? Who are some people that you have inspired?\n\n00:27:25.200 --\u003e 00:27:29.070\nValerie Wade: You know what? What do you want people to know about\nyour church today?\n\n00:27:30.270 --\u003e 00:27:37.080\nEzzie Williams: Well, today, I want them to know there's still a\ndeliverer church,\n\n00:27:37.080 --\u003e 00:27:46.290\nEzzie Williams: which I've been pastor now for bout forty-five years,\nand ministry over fifty years.\n\n00:27:46.800 --\u003e 00:27:56.550\nEzzie Williams: And so I want them know we still going and we we still\non fire for\n\n00:27:56.550 --\u003e 00:28:05.010\nEzzie Williams: God and, you know, looking for greater things, and God\nto umm hmm to develop.\n\n00:28:05.040 --\u003e 00:28:12.420\nEzzie Williams: Cause I was fought a lot by by men pastors in the early\nstages of my ministry.\n\n00:28:14.310 --\u003e 00:28:18.390\nValerie Wade: Wow. Do you have any advice for other women in\nministry?\n\n00:28:18.780 --\u003e 00:28:20.760\nValerie Wade: You know, for how to overcome that?\n\n00:28:21.750 --\u003e 00:28:30.900\nEzzie Williams: Well, you have to be strong because many the womens\nstop pastoring because of the pressure.\n\n00:28:31.110 --\u003e 00:28:38.130\nEzzie Williams: The men would come and and wonder,\nwhile we did have a good group they were going around\n\n00:28:38.160 --\u003e 00:28:41.580\nEzzie Williams: saying David's going to destroy the women c churches.\n\n00:28:41.930 --\u003e 00:28:48.680\nEzzie Williams: And they was going around to women churches and,\nand, and you know,\n\n00:28:48.800 --\u003e 00:28:55.970\nEzzie Williams: doing things like when, when she was trying to preach,\nthey would finish the scriptures and say where its\n\n00:28:55.970 --\u003e 00:29:00.740\nEzzie Williams: found and they would just torment her all while during\nher message.\n\n00:29:00.740 --\u003e 00:29:06.040\nEzzie Williams: And, and they would just, they would like,\ntake over and.\n\n00:29:06.040 --\u003e 00:29:14.330\nEzzie Williams: So they were doing it in the community,\nthey came to my church and they it was bout four of\n\n00:29:14.330 --\u003e 00:29:19.730\nEzzie Williams: 'em. And they, they I guess I don't know what they\nplans was.\n\n00:29:19.730 --\u003e 00:29:22.340\nEzzie Williams: I guess to do the same thing.\n\n00:29:22.640 --\u003e 00:29:32.620\nEzzie Williams: But that night, God began to come in and bless and move\nsuch a different way didn't move\n\n00:29:32.630 --\u003e 00:29:39.500\nEzzie Williams: the same way. People were being blessed before the\nmessage and a lot of things happen different.\n\n00:29:39.500 --\u003e 00:29:43.840\nEzzie Williams: So it threw them off, so they threw 'em off.\n\n00:29:43.840 --\u003e 00:29:49.570\nEzzie Williams: And by the time that they thought they was going to say\nsomething,\n\n00:29:49.570 --\u003e 00:29:51.820\nEzzie Williams: I was already up preaching.\n\n00:29:51.970 --\u003e 00:29:55.240\nEzzie Williams: So they didn't get a chance to say anything.\n\n00:29:55.240 --\u003e 00:29:59.290\nEzzie Williams: And afterwards they came up for prayer. So.\n\n00:30:00.610 --\u003e 00:30:01.060\nValerie Wade: Wow, that's really interesting.\n\n00:30:00.610 --\u003e 00:30:01.060\nEzzie Williams: Yeah.\n\n00:30:03.970 --\u003e 00:30:10.690\nValerie Wade: Wow. Well before we end was there anything else that\nyou wanted to say today?\n\n00:30:10.720 --\u003e 00:30:17.530\nEzzie Williams: Well, I wanted to mention that,\nyou know, I did do prison ministry also.\n\n00:30:17.560 --\u003e 00:30:19.810\nEzzie Williams: I did tent ministry.\n\n00:30:19.840 --\u003e 00:30:20.740\nValerie Wade: Yes, tell us.\n\n00:30:21.760 --\u003e 00:30:29.920\nEzzie Williams: Well, I wanted to mention especially about the tent\nministry and how I traveled and put up tents.\n\n00:30:29.920 --\u003e 00:30:38.740\nEzzie Williams: I had the brothers go before me,\nsaid, find a spot and get everything and set up a tent\n\n00:30:38.740 --\u003e 00:30:44.670\nEzzie Williams: ministries. And then we would start after the,\nyou know,\n\n00:30:44.700 --\u003e 00:30:47.640\nEzzie Williams: they would get the tents set up and ready to go.\n\n00:30:47.670 --\u003e 00:30:53.490\nEzzie Williams: Then we would have revivals there for five to ten\nnights in that city.\n\n00:30:53.490 --\u003e 00:30:57.870\nEzzie Williams: And we just went from place to place doing that,\nyou know,\n\n00:30:57.870 --\u003e 00:31:02.610\nEzzie Williams: and 'til I would some of them that if I would get a\ngood crowd,\n\n00:31:02.610 --\u003e 00:31:07.740\nEzzie Williams: I set up a church there, and if I would do good in this\ncity,\n\n00:31:07.740 --\u003e 00:31:12.960\nEzzie Williams: I set up a church there. So I really was doing\nsomething like apostle work.\n\n00:31:13.590 --\u003e 00:31:14.040\nValerie Wade: Um-hm.\n\n00:31:13.590 --\u003e 00:31:19.710\nEzzie Williams: Yeah because I was, you know,\nsetting up churches in different cities.\n\n00:31:19.710 --\u003e 00:31:24.180\nEzzie Williams: Louisiana was one of my great places that I set up a\nchurch.\n\n00:31:24.180 --\u003e 00:31:25.890\nEzzie Williams: Down by Baton Rouge.\n\n00:31:26.220 --\u003e 00:31:30.180\nEzzie Williams: Yeah and down in their country,\npart of Baton Rouge.\n\n00:31:30.270 --\u003e 00:31:33.780\nEzzie Williams: And I, we set up a church there.\n\n00:31:33.840 --\u003e 00:31:37.650\nEzzie Williams: And so God really blessed me in that.\n\n00:31:37.800 --\u003e 00:31:42.060\nEzzie Williams: But I'm so happy about the prison ministry.\n\n00:31:42.090 --\u003e 00:31:45.120\nEzzie Williams: We had an open-door-- (inaudible) reunion.\n\n00:31:45.270 --\u003e 00:31:48.450\nEzzie Williams: They opened the door for us to come in.\n\n00:31:48.570 --\u003e 00:31:56.610\nEzzie Williams: So our choir came in and we all and I came in,\nand Minister the word and my choir sung.\n\n00:31:56.850 --\u003e 00:31:58.950\nEzzie Williams: We did that for a long time.\n\n00:31:58.950 --\u003e 00:32:07.650\nEzzie Williams: And when we stopped, they fixed it,\nthey baked us a big cake with the church name on it.\n\n00:32:07.650 --\u003e 00:32:12.980\nEzzie Williams: And I made some ice cream,\nand they served cake and ice cream-- (inaudible).\n\n00:32:15.780 --\u003e 00:32:18.780\nValerie Wade: That was really nice. It's good work.\n\n00:32:18.840 --\u003e 00:32:21.030\nEzzie Williams: It is well thank you.\n\n00:32:21.180 --\u003e 00:32:28.470\nValerie Wade: Yes. I want to say thank you very,\nvery much for coming here to donate your time and to\n\n00:32:28.500 --\u003e 00:32:33.240\nValerie Wade: tell us your story. We really do appreciate it and I\nwish you the best.\n\n00:32:33.720 --\u003e 00:32:35.280\nEzzie Williams: Oh well, thank you so much. Thank you.\n\n00:32:35.760 --\u003e 00:32:37.560\nValerie Wade: Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/164540/file/299597#t=0.0,1959.958"}]}]}]}