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Brandele.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113041/file/215722#t=6.9,9.92"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113041/file/215722/transcript/70228/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I know I'm mispronouncing it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113041/file/215722#t=9.92,11.5"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113041/file/215722/transcript/70228/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, that's 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