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This is December 8th, 2009.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653#t=2.6,6.3"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653/transcript/72045/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nicolas Castellanos: I'm joined here with Mrs. Bennie R.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653#t=6.96,9.58"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653/transcript/72045/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nicolas Castellanos: Jackson, and she's giving her testimony for the oral\nhistory project at the African American Library at the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653#t=9.66,17.67"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653/transcript/72045/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nicolas Castellanos: Gregory School. Good afternoon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653#t=17.7,20.08"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653/transcript/72045/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bennie Jackson: Good afternoon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653#t=20.63,21.14"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653/transcript/72045/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nicolas Castellanos: And just for our project and the record, would you\nplease state your full birth name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653#t=21.14,25.93"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653/transcript/72045/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bennie Jackson: My name is Bennie Ruth Lewis Jackson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653#t=26.52,28.98"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653/transcript/72045/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nicolas Castellanos: Okay. And would you please state where and when you\nwere born?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653#t=29.43,32.7"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653/transcript/72045/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bennie Jackson: I was born in a little town outside of Belaire, which\nis called Riceville. 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And, Mrs. Jackson, you had mentioned that you\nwere a former student here at the Gregory School.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653#t=54.1,60.11"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653/transcript/72045/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bennie Jackson: Oh, yes. I was here in the forties and I really enjoyed\nbeing here. This was a beautiful school at that time. I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653#t=60.24,66.87"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653/transcript/72045/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bennie Jackson: had many friends, and we—actually, I learned how to read and\nwrite downstairs in that first room down there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653#t=67.22,76.88"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653/transcript/72045/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bennie Jackson: And later on I moved up in grade.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653#t=76.88,79.74"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2529/collection_resources/113929/file/216653/transcript/72045/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bennie Jackson: I don't remember the teachers at the time because it's\nbeen a long time ago. 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