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No, go ahead. I'm-","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=83.84,84.74"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Excuse me. Go ahead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=84.74,85.34"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm not going to say anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=85.34,88.73"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In what capacity did you begin working with your 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He wrote several books, uh, Birdsall P.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2007.71,2012.53"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Briscoe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2012.53,2015.19"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, uh, very, very sort of quiet individual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2015.19,2017.73"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Very nice person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2017.73,2020.0"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/363","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How about Maurice Sullivan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2020.0,2021.27"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/364","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did you know him?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2021.27,2022.09"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/365","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, yeah. Yeah, he lived only about three blocks from us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2022.09,2026.79"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, I knew Maurice Sullivan very well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2026.79,2030.59"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He, uh, one time before he actually got into business for himself, he was the, he was head what, the city architect, he was architect for the city of Houston.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2030.59,2042.99"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/368","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, he was, uh, he was,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2042.99,2046.59"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/369","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"um, he was mostly, uh, commercial.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2046.59,2051.21"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/370","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maurice Sullivan was a, was a Catholic, and he got practically all the Catholic work; 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I can, uh, relate you a lot of them, which are not, not relative to what we're talking about the, to prove a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2401.52,2411.38"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/433","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"point that, that, uh, I better not get on that subject.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2411.38,2415.85"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/434","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, who was the mayor at that time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2415.85,2417.71"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/435","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't recall. 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It's, uh, uh...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2690.38,2695.06"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/485","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You see, you don't, an architect doesn't advertise like a doctor, you don't advertise for, for work and he, he, uh, actually it's like any other","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2695.06,2705.14"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/486","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"business where it's just a matter of salesmanship, of being able to sell yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2705.14,2710.48"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/487","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I never was a salesman, I never intended to be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2710.48,2714.29"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/488","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But you've got to be a salesman in any business to succeed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2714.29,2720.05"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/489","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What, what caused the problem with the City County Hospital?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2720.05,2723.47"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/490","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Why wasn't it, uh-?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2723.47,2725.75"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/491","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, it's a long story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2725.75,2728.39"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/492","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'll try to make the short as possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2728.39,2730.85"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/493","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not too short. Like that would happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2730.85,2734.09"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/494","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One day, Mr.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2734.09,2738.25"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/495","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hugh Roy Cullen, H.R. 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I mean, of, uh, big men, that were all, thought well of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2766.61,2774.26"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/500","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, uh, said they were interested in the City County Hospital, okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2774.26,2781.34"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/501","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So in the middle of the conversation, he was sitting two other architects over here, Maddox and Johnson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2781.34,2786.41"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/502","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, uh, so, Mr. Cullen, as my father said, ","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2786.41,2791.2225"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/503","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maddox and Johnson, they've done some work for me, preliminary work on a diagnostic clinic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2791.2225,2797.96"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/504","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Would you take them on as, uh, some as a, in a partnership where they, uh, they could be repaid for some of this work they've done for me,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2797.96,2808.01"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/505","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I won't have to pay for it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2808.01,2809.93"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/506","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Being that he was do, donating four hundred thousand, four hundred  thousand dollars to this, for this diagnostic clinic, which was to go in the hospital.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2809.93,2821.27"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/507","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, they, uh, when everything was all agreed on, well he says, How soon, you want to start working on it right","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766#t=2821.27,2831.26"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113064/file/215766/transcript/65220/annotation/508","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"now. 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