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Today is July 13th, 2022.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=0.15,10.17"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I am interviewing Dawn.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=10.17,14.79"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pronounce yours.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=14.79,16.38"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Callahan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=16.38,17.79"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dawn Callahan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=17.79,20.31"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This interview is taking place in Houston, Texas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=20.31,27.0"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This interview is sponsored by HBO Gregory School as a part of the Bear Witness Project.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=27.0,35.63"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Please tell me your full name and what you know about your last name. Its origins.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=35.63,45.98"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So my full name is Dawn Frenae Callahan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=45.98,50.39"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What's interesting about my last name is that there are a couple of stories in our family about our name","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=50.39,57.38"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because it is an Irish last name. And so I remember back in school just, you know, we had the conversation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=57.38,64.61"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of like, slaves would pick up their master's last name and that would be their last name. And so just sort of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=64.61,70.28"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"kind of assume that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=70.28,73.1"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then I remember being in being in school and we had to go and research our family, the origin of our name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=73.1,82.69"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And there's a story that our last name was really Callaham, not Callahan, and that my grandfather changed","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=82.69,91.57"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it to make you know because it was like it was illegible, like there was an M instead of an N or","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=91.57,97.81"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"something other. I don't know. But the only thing that that I just that I know is that it has an Irish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=97.81,107.96"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like it's an it's an Irish last name. Like we're still on the fence as to how we ended up with the name or if","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=107.96,114.11"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it was really Callaham. That's it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=114.11,116.96"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's just that's as far back as as I know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=116.96,121.86"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Can you tell me how well do you know your ancestral history?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=121.86,129.51"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And can you share how you learned what you do know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=129.51,137.84"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I was very interested in our history a couple probably about ten years ago when I did, the Ancestry","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=137.84,147.44"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"signed up for the membership and just started researching both sides of my family. So I probably know","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=147.44,153.59"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"more than most because I was know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=153.59,157.91"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I did the research and I went through and found the dates and tracked the whatever. And so it was really","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=157.91,162.59"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"interesting that the stories that I found would lead me to go to my mom and ask my mom like, Is this what you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=162.59,170.81"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"knew? And she was like, No, I don't. That's not what I knew. And we would have to call down south to my","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=170.81,175.13"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"family, where my mom's from North Carolina, to see what they knew. Because per census records, it looked as if","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=175.13,182.84"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"my grandmother started having kids a lot earlier than what I was told.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=182.84,190.1"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And. And it was her life was just very it was a lot more radical than women during that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=190.1,202.14"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Looked like she started having babies at 14. She had five children, five different partners. She she left","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=202.14,211.02"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and went up north to Boston and was doing her thing up there like she and then she ended up coming back home","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=211.02,218.07"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to take care of her parents when they started aging. But she had a full full life which considering what I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=218.07,220.83"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"know about that time, would have been something that  people would have probably frowned upon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=220.83,231.63"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So anyway, I say all that to say that it's been it's been stories has been passed down. My mom is not","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=231.63,241.35"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very big on talking about her childhood, but she'll talk more about like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=241.35,249.55"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The experiences she witnessed as a child versus her own. So stories like that. And then on my dad's side,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=249.55,257.14"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's really stories between my dad, my aunt, because his family's not close.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=257.14,263.5"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, someone we just lost someone the other day that I know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=263.5,269.23"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She's in my family and I saw her barbecues, but I'm not sure how the relationship goes. That's how distant that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=269.23,274.78"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are. My dad's family is. So anyway, we are not like the family that keeps any information, like in a Bible or","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=274.78,280.69"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"anything like that. We don't have family reunions or anything like that. So it's it was per research and per","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=280.69,286.78"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"gossip, I guess.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=286.78,289.59"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ok. Who is the woman ancestor of African descent in your family lineage","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=289.59,299.03"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that you would like to bear witness to her impact on your family?  And how","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=299.03,309.77"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is she? Or was she related to you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=309.77,312.22"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hmm? That's interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=312.22,319.95"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=319.95,325.19"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would say my grandmother. On my dad's side  But it's  I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=325.19,337.36"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"don't know. I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=337.36,344.16"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's. That's interesting. And I guess I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't really know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=344.16,348.9"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, Well, let's start with your grandmother on your dad's side. What's her. What is her name and where was she born?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=348.9,357.6"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rita Jane Butler was her.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=357.6,360.45"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it was Rita Jane Callahan after marriage. She was born here, I believe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=360.45,371.15"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She was born in Houston, Texas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=371.15,373.16"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm sorry, in the Chicago land area. I'm so sorry. Sorry. I keep I think about home as Chicago. But she","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=373.16,380.21"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was I think she was born in a Chicago land area. Am I telling the truth?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=380.21,389.09"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think so I don't know. The is what's really interesting about my dad's mom is that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=389.09,397.89"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So Butler so when we were doing the research on Callahan, Butler came up so apparently. On the Butler's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=397.89,405.44"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"side, we can trace our family back to a white general. This general.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=405.44,414.45"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, God. What was his name? I just remember his General Franklin Butler. I think anyway, he had concubines,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=414.45,421.2"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"whatever, whatever, whatever. And that's where the Butler of my grandmother comes from. The reason that I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=421.2,429.18"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had a big question mark is because it's my relationship with my grandmother was just, you know, just that time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=429.18,436.95"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like, I didn't it's not like it is now. I don't know, maybe it was just our family because we weren't very","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=436.95,442.26"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"close, but it was like I went and saw her. We would have spent the night times when I was young, but I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=442.26,448.2"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"don't really. My association with her for your question is more so because her house was like the house that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=448.2,453.78"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people went to. And she would encourage, like all of you like me and my the rest of the first cousins to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=453.78,462.35"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have a very close relationships. And we did and we did for the most part, for a very long time until we lost","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=462.35,467.72"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"my cousin early. And so I think that is her.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=467.72,477.9"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. How so in terms of her last name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=477.9,485.72"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What do you know about her her last name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=485.72,490.39"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Her maiden name, I guess because we talked about. Her married name. Do you know anything about her last name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=490.39,498.51"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My that's the Butler. So the Butler is my grandmother's maiden name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=498.51,504.29"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My My dad's mother.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=504.29,507.17"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My mom's mother was very old when she had my mom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=507.17,511.88"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She she was born. And that's the one who had, like, multiple children with different partners and started","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=511.88,520.88"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"having kids early. So I think she had my mom. It seems like she had kids between the age of 14 and like 40,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=520.88,528.35"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and my mom was the baby. And so my mom had had siblings she had never met.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=528.35,534.92"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They didn't even know she existed because they didn't come back like they left years ago and hadn't come","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=534.92,539.69"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"back. And so she was like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=539.69,546.29"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She was a maid for a prominent white family in North Carolina where they grew up. And so— Her","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=546.29,556.29"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"relationship, even with my mom. They were close, but I think it was a little bit hands off because my grandma","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=556.29,563.51"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was working for this other family, like she would be there all the time. Like my mom would come in the back","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=563.51,568.91"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"door and see her as a little girl. You know, the side door.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=568.91,574.05"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So your paternal grandmother Do you— Where was she born?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=574.05,581.96"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Do you know where where she was born?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=581.96,586.7"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what was her life, life like growing up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=586.7,589.67"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, gosh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=589.67,593.09"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My grandmother was born in North Carolina.  Harder.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=593.09,600.96"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Seemingly, her life was hard, like she left home so that she could make money to take care of her parents.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=600.96,608.22"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So and she You know, went north.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=608.22,615.55"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And and that's the only thing. I mean, it's crazy because she's she's someone that I would have kicked it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=615.55,620.59"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with, like for real because she was sounds like she was super free. Even though, I mean, again, considering","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=620.59,626.44"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this is the early 1900s and she's a young Black girl and she's moving about the United States. Like.  Like","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=626.44,634.03"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"doing her own thing, I'm sure that that came with a lot of challenges. And that was her I guess it was her","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=634.03,639.64"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"spirit. And so the only reason that she came back was to take care of her, her parents. And I remember my mom talks about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=639.64,650.57"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One of them had already passed by the time my mom was born, but the other one was just like my grandmother","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=650.57,655.4"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"just waited on them hand and foot until they passed away. But the house that my my grandmother grew up in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=655.4,661.76"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was the house that my mom grew up in and it was like a 490 square foot house. Like the house is smaller than","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=661.76,667.67"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"my apartment now in Houston. It's crazy. And then there was a little house behind the house, but no indoor  plumbing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=667.67,673.49"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that was your maternal grandmother. And so I know that we started the conversation with like, which","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=673.49,680.51"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"grandmother would you want to talk about? And you said your paternal grandmother, your dad's mother. So can","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=680.51,689.72"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you share where she was born and what her life was like growing up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=689.72,694.44"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, maybe. Maybe I've confused myself. Probably.My dad's mother was Rita Jane Butler.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=694.44,702.83"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's the one that's connected to the Confederate, not I mean, the soldier, the general that's in the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=702.83,709.07"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"encyclopedia that we can look up. 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Like now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=957.63,966.59"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't now I feel like I need to call my aunt. I don't I haven't I don't know. I don't know. I know that by","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=966.59,973.92"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the time she got married to my granddad, she and he both had drinking problems. 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I know what life was like for my dad growing up as a little boy, but for my grandmother.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=989.89,999.07"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=999.07,1002.02"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So then when you think about these two grandmothers, one on your mom's side, your dad's side, and you think","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=1002.02,1009.1"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about now thinking about them and their families, you know, and just you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=1009.1,1017.99"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What would you say has been the impact that they've had on your life?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=1017.99,1026.88"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I think that so I'll say this because now we've been you know, I never really think about my family's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=1026.88,1036.28"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Disconnection at all I guess so, Even now, thinking about even the opportunity to do this interview, now","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=1036.28,1042.97"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm like, Are you the person for this? 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And so and so was I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=1525.0,1533.91"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because, again, as as I'm thinking about the questions that you asked me and how I was in pause on a lot of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=1533.91,1540.36"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"them, like I know that there is a space, a huge space where there's conversations that still hasn't been had.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=1540.36,1547.95"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I'm wondering if they'll ever be had, because in our family it was just, you know, there's so many","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666#t=1547.95,1555.42"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2510/collection_resources/112997/file/215666/transcript/61249/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"stories that's just swept under the rug and. 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