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I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112841/file/215447#t=8.23,18.17"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112841/file/215447/transcript/71086/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"came as a result of several meetings with several of the trustees of the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112841/file/215447#t=18.17,23.93"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112841/file/215447/transcript/71086/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Houston Ballet Foundation when I was general manager of the Boston Ballet 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