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My","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/162480/file/295926#t=43.46,47.94"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/162480/file/295926/transcript/85582/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"address is 147 Glenway, Houston, Texas, 77056.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/162480/file/295926#t=47.94,56.5"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/162480/file/295926/transcript/85582/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And anything 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yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/162480/file/295926#t=92.63,93.21"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/162480/file/295926/transcript/85582/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like all juniors, I guess, I was named","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/162480/file/295926#t=94.05,96.87"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/162480/file/295926/transcript/85582/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from my 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