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Marshall was chief.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112947/file/215596#t=3761.49,3763.17"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112947/file/215596/transcript/70686/annotation/638","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now I was in there a short time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112947/file/215596#t=3765.45,3767.29"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112947/file/215596/transcript/70686/annotation/639","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know who I relieved with 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