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31st.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728#t=6.38,7.76"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728/transcript/71588/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think Wednesday too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728#t=9.22,10.84"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728/transcript/71588/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the day that we got a storm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728#t=11.58,13.18"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728/transcript/71588/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"August 31st, 1977, the interview with Mr. Morris Lee.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728#t=14.72,19.04"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728/transcript/71588/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mr. Lee, I'd like to begin the interview by getting some basic background","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728#t=20.02,23.96"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728/transcript/71588/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"information on you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728#t=23.96,25.0"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728/transcript/71588/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Are you a native of the South?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728#t=25.52,26.58"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728/transcript/71588/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728#t=26.58,27.2"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728/transcript/71588/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I came to Houston in 1921.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728#t=27.28,31.8"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728/transcript/71588/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I stayed for a week or so and went down to Texas City and stayed","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728#t=32.44,38.24"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728/transcript/71588/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for a year and came back to Houston.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728#t=38.24,41.88"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728/transcript/71588/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Been here as my home ever since.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728#t=42.88,45.36"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728/transcript/71588/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You better pick it up 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Lee.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728#t=388.79,390.41"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728/transcript/71588/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mr. Lee, I'd like to begin the interview by getting some basic background","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728#t=391.47,395.33"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/113046/file/215728/transcript/71588/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"information on 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