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Pappas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112959/file/215611#t=1300.94,1302.46"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112959/file/215611/transcript/70678/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this was when?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112959/file/215611#t=1303.54,1304.9"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112959/file/215611/transcript/70678/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When was he doing 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Payne was chief, I knew B.W. Payne real close.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112959/file/215611#t=2826.7,2830.28"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112959/file/215611/transcript/70678/annotation/581","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But Herman Short, I...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112959/file/215611#t=2831.58,2833.76"},{"id":"https://houstonlibrary.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2509/collection_resources/112959/file/215611/transcript/70678/annotation/582","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What kind of reputation did he 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