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Osowski discusses the challenges he faced in choosing appropriate programming for Houston's diverse communities and attracting audiences for those programs during the late 1970s."]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["Videocassette tape, sound"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject"]},"value":{"en":["Houston (Tex.) (geographic)","National Endowment for the Humanities","Libraries","Academic libraries","Public libraries","Grants-in-aid","Finance","Librarians","Oral histories;"]}},{"label":{"en":["Type"]},"value":{"en":["Sound"]}},{"label":{"en":["Custom Identifier"]},"value":{"en":["OH0483"]}},{"label":{"en":["Note"]},"value":{"en":["Original"]}},{"label":{"en":["Funding Note"]},"value":{"en":["This project was made possible in part by the Institute of Museum and Library Services [ARPML-250908-OMLS-22]."]}}],"summary":{"en":["Edward J. Osowski was a Project Director at the Houston Public Library beginning in 1976. 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